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The only way to describe this is as an unfortunate inevitability of review systems as a whole.
by astrodust 8y ago
The only way to describe this is as an unfortunate inevitability of review systems as a whole.
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- toss1 8y agoI'd say of unmoderated (or poorly moderated) review systems. E.g., we don't see this on Angie's List or Houzz. I've found that the only way to get useful information out of most Amazon reviews is to look at the 1- & 2-stars, trying to filter out the fake competitor hits, and see if there are any consistent issues that aren't DEU issues. Then look at the 3- & 4-stars and see what seems to be good. That said, I expect it'll only be a matter of time until this strategy is no good.
- giancarlostoro 8y agoAnother factor is reviews with pictures depending on what you are buying. In any case I cancelled Amazon prime. They wont be getting my money once my membership expires. I rather pay for a service thats worthwhile to me. I rather get my things at Walmart or BestBuy due to convenience and now BestBuy will price match Amazon.
- mcpherrinm 8y agoFor all the problems that Amazon has, there is a long history of Best Buy actively pushing consumer-harmful practises that I would still rate them a lower choice. The first one that comes to mind is forcing printer manufacturers to not bundle USB cables so they can separately sell them at a high markup
- giancarlostoro 8y agoI usually only buy things they can't bully themselves into like Macs or Surface devices, or gaming consoles. However, I was not aware of such awful nonsense.
- dangwu 8y agoIf people wanted to fake review Angie's List or Houzz, they would do it.
- dcbadacd 8y agoI'd say this is exactly where some kind of web of trust could work. Meaning that everyone is shown the reviews of their added family members, their trusted people (with less weight) and so on and on. If they betray the trust the system could even have a "trust less" button. It'd actually give people the ability to choose who they trust.
- drb91 8y agoAre you kidding? People I know have TERRIBLE judgement when it comes to products. Who builds trust based on that characteristic?
- nerdponx 8y agoBut a web of trust based on, "I like this reviwer, so I trust who they trust" seems reasonable.
- majewsky 8y agoSo now I have to spend time reviewing reviewers? This smells like the next bullshit job (or, since I'm not even paid for it, just a huge waste of time).
- tokyodude 8y agoI am really curious if this would actually work. I also think if you trust a reviewer and it turns out they are a bad reviewer than your trust rating should lower. (you turned out to be a bad reviewer reviewer) That said I have no idea if this would. Seems those 87k people mentioned above would just trust each other to raise their trust ratings.
- nerdponx 8y agoIts not about total trust "rating". That not how web of trust works. You, the informed and responsible user, have to look at who their connections are. It's more like Linkedin: if someone adds you and they are a mutual connection with a bunch of coworkers you like, that's good. But if their mutual connections are all social climbing spammers, you know they either are one themselves or don't know enough not to fall for that stuff.
- megy 8y ago> Angie's List or Houzz. Ok sure, you can put it down to moderation, or you can put it down to size. What is the size of Angie's list to Amazon?
- cwyers 8y agoNot only that, but Angie's List covers services that only reach a small market. So a fake review for any individual product has a much small potential reach.
- cocacola1 8y agoI'd say that's an additional way to describe it.
- sundvor 8y agoYep. To me, the real bullshit is the expectation that anything other than a 100% 5/5 score is an indicator of serious fault. If you leave 4/5 as an eBay review for example you have pretty much offended the seller.
- genidoi 8y agoMost products sold on eBay / amazon are too simple for detailed seller ratings to matter. The usefulness of a 5 star review system is far higher when there is a wide and fairly continuous spectrum of expected performance (food, airbnb) compared to a binary choice between "something this simple really shouldn't break so easily" and "it works fine".
- ceejayoz 8y agoThere really should just be a "things went fine" and "something went wrong" toggle, with the option to leave a more detailed bit of feedback. "93% of people had no issues" is a lot more meaningful than "4.3 stars" to me.
- astrodust 8y agoLike on Fiverr where if I leave a 3 star review for substandard work, below expectations set by their portfolio, I feel like I've killed their dog.