As I understand it, pharo was squeak. But squeak with etoys was very much aimed at children - pharo was a fork to make a more "serious" open/free smalltalk. Sin

As I understand it, pharo was squeak. But squeak with etoys was very much aimed at children - pharo was a fork to make a more "serious" open/free smalltalk. Since then the projects have moved forward together - and apart. Sharing advances (like new VM) where it makes sense. But I'm sure there are people that know more on here. Like Alan Kay, for example :)