7 ms·

Sad to see. It seems there really isn't a market for these types of Android phones.

nradov 8y ago
What type of Android phone is that? It seemed to differ from other Android devices only in trivial details; there was no significant differentiation or innovation.
- notyourday 8y ago
  Software upgrades within a week or so of Google releasing new Android, no bloatware, fast, excellent battery life.
  - lozaning 8y ago
    I'll say the same about my Pixel.
  - nradov 8y ago
    The battery is only 3040mAh and isn't even removable. Not impressive at all.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    I don't think any of those features are related to their failure. They launched with a sub-par product in the $700 price range.
  - p1necone 8y ago
    Sounds like the Nokia phones to me - I have a Nokia 6.1 and it ticks most of those boxes. (I don't know if the battery counts as excellent - it lasts ~36 hours if I'm not using it constantly but that seems about average for a new battery in most mid range phones)
  - omnimus 8y ago
    Android One phones will do it on software side.
    - notyourday 8y ago
      And given enough thrust pigs will fly. I'm sure it would be magical when it actually happens but it has not happened so far.
Steltek 8y ago
A classy phone not from a giant tech company or with questionable governmental ties? No forced bloatware? Fast, reliable updates? There's really no market for that? The market is stupid and wrong. This isn't a failure of technology. This is a failure of marketing and getting the message out.
- andun 8y ago
  Or maybe people don't care about being spied upon, getting updates, and don't even know what bloatware is.
  - Steko 8y ago
    > people don't care about being spied upon Perhaps "sign in to google" isn't the bulletproof privacy phone some commenters are implying it is.
- nine_k 8y ago
  The market is there, of course! It just appears to be narrower that what's required to sustain a company like this, at least at the price point they chose. I can imagine such a phone as a no-compromises ultra-premium product for the select few who want utter privacy and safety, and would pay at e.g. the iPhone's price point for a comparable level of assurance. I can imagine such a phone at a low-end, cheaper segment for the privacy-conscious but not very well-off who could tolerate a number of compromises in features. At a mass-market segment it, unfortunately, did not seem to work too well, though.
  - notyourday 8y ago
    It was overpriced. They sold what? 50k phones at about $500 a pop average before cutting the price to $350? That's $25m in revenue after raising $300m. They should have continued working on a line of phones. Instead they switched gears, dropped the price on a phone and started doing a fire sale.
    - radicaldreamer 8y ago
deleted 8y ago
[deleted]

What type of Android phone is that? It seemed to differ from other Android devices only in trivial details; there was no significant differentiation or innovation.

notyourday 8y ago
Software upgrades within a week or so of Google releasing new Android, no bloatware, fast, excellent battery life.
- lozaning 8y ago
  I'll say the same about my Pixel.
- nradov 8y ago
  The battery is only 3040mAh and isn't even removable. Not impressive at all.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  I don't think any of those features are related to their failure. They launched with a sub-par product in the $700 price range.
- p1necone 8y ago
  Sounds like the Nokia phones to me - I have a Nokia 6.1 and it ticks most of those boxes. (I don't know if the battery counts as excellent - it lasts ~36 hours if I'm not using it constantly but that seems about average for a new battery in most mid range phones)
- omnimus 8y ago
  Android One phones will do it on software side.
  - notyourday 8y ago
    And given enough thrust pigs will fly. I'm sure it would be magical when it actually happens but it has not happened so far.

Steltek 8y ago

A classy phone not from a giant tech company or with questionable governmental ties? No forced bloatware? Fast, reliable updates? There's really no market for that? The market is stupid and wrong. This isn't a failure of technology. This is a failure of marketing and getting the message out.

andun 8y ago
Or maybe people don't care about being spied upon, getting updates, and don't even know what bloatware is.
- Steko 8y ago
  > people don't care about being spied upon Perhaps "sign in to google" isn't the bulletproof privacy phone some commenters are implying it is.
nine_k 8y ago
The market is there, of course! It just appears to be narrower that what's required to sustain a company like this, at least at the price point they chose. I can imagine such a phone as a no-compromises ultra-premium product for the select few who want utter privacy and safety, and would pay at e.g. the iPhone's price point for a comparable level of assurance. I can imagine such a phone at a low-end, cheaper segment for the privacy-conscious but not very well-off who could tolerate a number of compromises in features. At a mass-market segment it, unfortunately, did not seem to work too well, though.
- notyourday 8y ago
  It was overpriced. They sold what? 50k phones at about $500 a pop average before cutting the price to $350? That's $25m in revenue after raising $300m. They should have continued working on a line of phones. Instead they switched gears, dropped the price on a phone and started doing a fire sale.
  - radicaldreamer 8y ago

deleted 8y ago

[deleted]