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"Back in the day" the BASIC language made sense, as it was right at your prompt in text based interfaces. The same situation today is the web browser, and the a

"Back in the day" the BASIC language made sense, as it was right at your prompt in text based interfaces. The same situation today is the web browser, and the ability to open up the developer's console and getting direct access to a web site's JavaScript, html & CSS. Forget BASIC, and introduce your kids to web developing. They will "get it" much faster than <kid's voice here> "boring dumb BASIC, can't do web stuff, it sucks."

khazhou 8y ago
A huge part of the appeal of C64-style BASIC is the lack of distractions. I mean, you're already talking about CSS! :-) A better match than Javascript (which doesn't have an interactive console, and HTML+JS is event-driven) would be Python.
- lupire 8y ago
  a web browser has an interactive console. node.js has a text console if you don't want the web browser attached.
  - khazhou 8y ago
    > a web browser has an interactive console. A super limited one. You can't edit code there.
TallGuyShort 8y ago
Some basic scripting is probably still a good starting place for younger kids to wrap their minds around syntax, basic constructs, etc. Dropping them in the DOM right away is probably in the deep end, too much, although I'd agree getting them there quickly opens a lot of fun and practical doors faster than almost anything else. edit: Second the suggestion of Python below, even if it's just for a few months to learn the basics of coding in general. Pivoting a few months in to a new environment is also hard in and of itself, but that's the path I'd go. As a little bonus, then you don't get too stuck in one way of thinking :)
- bsenftner 8y ago
  You under estimate kids. You all are under estimating them. 10 year olds figure out how to modify mods written in C++ for games they love. Given interest, they will get it. And the web is what has their interest today.
  - TallGuyShort 8y ago
    No I'm thinking for like 7-8 year olds. I was doing C++ at age 11, but it was substantially easier because already had a few years of Pascal under my belt.

khazhou 8y ago

A huge part of the appeal of C64-style BASIC is the lack of distractions. I mean, you're already talking about CSS! :-) A better match than Javascript (which doesn't have an interactive console, and HTML+JS is event-driven) would be Python.

lupire 8y ago
a web browser has an interactive console. node.js has a text console if you don't want the web browser attached.
- khazhou 8y ago
  > a web browser has an interactive console. A super limited one. You can't edit code there.

TallGuyShort 8y ago

Some basic scripting is probably still a good starting place for younger kids to wrap their minds around syntax, basic constructs, etc. Dropping them in the DOM right away is probably in the deep end, too much, although I'd agree getting them there quickly opens a lot of fun and practical doors faster than almost anything else. edit: Second the suggestion of Python below, even if it's just for a few months to learn the basics of coding in general. Pivoting a few months in to a new environment is also hard in and of itself, but that's the path I'd go. As a little bonus, then you don't get too stuck in one way of thinking :)

bsenftner 8y ago
You under estimate kids. You all are under estimating them. 10 year olds figure out how to modify mods written in C++ for games they love. Given interest, they will get it. And the web is what has their interest today.
- TallGuyShort 8y ago
  No I'm thinking for like 7-8 year olds. I was doing C++ at age 11, but it was substantially easier because already had a few years of Pascal under my belt.