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I asked this question below and apparently it warranted massive downvotes: Is there any data on how many of the angels and VC's have a background engineering,
by rjzzleep 8y ago
I asked this question below and apparently it warranted massive downvotes:
Is there any data on how many of the angels and VC's have a background engineering, math, sciences vs. law, business and others?
It seems to be that correlation requires more than just, he's a guy, he get's more. She's a women she gets sexually harassed, she get's less. In one of the US offices I worked in I kept getting a lot of shit from some colleagues and a middle manage who's wife was one of the first employees and highly influentual. A year after I left, an ex colleague tells me that a good friend of that lady, also a lady, that didn't like me told everyone I talked shit about her breasts. Germany, half a year in, turns out the girls in the company are talking about my cute ass.
Is the difference that they did it behind my back, besides proactively? Can power dynamics really be boiled down to a plain men vs. women? Nothing about demographics, social context, history etc.?
Are we saying that Elizabeth Holmes is treated the same as some no name immigrant female founder? Or a random no name immigrant male founder even?
- gk1 8y agoThere's no implied causation here ("correlation")... It's straightforward: The women reported experiencing sexual harassment. Does it make it any better if the sexual harassment happened because they're female and a mathematician?
- mooseburger 8y agoHe wasn't talking about the field of the women, but of the harassers. Yes it does changes things if the harassers are primarily non-STEM, given this is Hacker News. What are we supposed to do about the culture outside our field?
- kevin_thibedeau 8y agoWhat matters is that the harassers are beholden to no one. They have no HR dept. to give them sensitivity training.
- vec 8y agoWell, for a start, we could be a lot more thoughtful about who we're willing to accept funding from.
- ummonk 8y agoWe work to lock them out of our field, by outing them, blacklisting them from tech events, refusing to take their money, etc. We don’t need to indulge outsiders trying to make a quick buck off our community if they don’t leave toxic behaviors at the door.
- api 8y agoYou're right in that racism and sexism also exist alongside classism, nepotism, cronyism, religious and cultural bigotry, "place-ism," favoritism toward people who attended certain schools, and so on. They're all problems. Racism and sexism are bad but the others should get more scrutiny as well. I know that classism and "place-ism" (favoritism or discrimination based on region of origin) are fairly big things in the US.
- tssva 8y agoAdd ageism to that list. It seems to be SV's favorite ism to practice and unlike the others regularly gets defended on HN.
- tdb7893 8y agoI'm not tracking exactly what your point is here. You ask things like "Can power dynamics be boiled down to men vs women?" And "Are we saying that Elizabeth Holmes is treated the same as some no name immigrant founder?" and the pretty obvious answer to those in no but I don't immediately see anyone here arguing against that so I'm not sure exactly what your objecting to.