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I'm not by any stretch an expert in VR/AR, but a couple of weeks ago I finally tried Magic Leap. My first reaction was: "What a piece of crap!! This is it?" A

by taytus 8y ago

I'm not by any stretch an expert in VR/AR, but a couple of weeks ago I finally tried Magic Leap. My first reaction was: "What a piece of crap!! This is it?" And yes... that it was. If you have never tried it, is 100X (and I'm being generous) less impressive than the super fake demo video they posted.

Groxx 8y ago
That was pretty much my experience with HoloLens. Uncomfortable headset, awkward and inaccurate hand gestures, and like a postage-stamp-size viewport. You couldn't see anything functional in the least due to viewport alone, and the low resolution killed any hope you may have had left. Tracking was mostly alright about 95% of the time, in an office setting which is probably borderline ideal (lots of high-contrast edges and corners all over), but even while relatively still it made plenty of mistakes. All of which I gather the Magic Leap is better on... by less than 50%. In two years. AR has unbelievably misleading advertising. To enough of a degree that I think they should be fined rather significantly. Remember the HoloLens Minecraft "demo" videos? Or the full 3D models on the user's desk, nearly the size of the screen or keyboard? You couldn't even cover a coffee mug at that distance.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  I was still somewhat impressed exactly by the HoloLenses very fast (and quite accurate) tracking. I think it was the absolutely right trade-off.
  - Groxx 8y ago
    Yeah, most of the time it was very solid, only barely perceptible lag. Fairly impressive when it was working smoothly :) Issues I had were mostly when it failed and started sliding around while I stood still, or jumped a bit and stayed wrong for a couple seconds.
- puranjay 8y ago
  The technology hype cycle over the last decade has been pretty disappointing. I was promised by now, I'd be 3D printing my sneakers, spend my time killing zombies in VR, and paying for DLC with crypto Of these, only VR seems even remotely close to reaching its original promise
  - iliis 8y ago
    About those sneakers: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:285404 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:285404 ;) But yeah, I agree that there's much too much hype around a lot of stuff...
    - DonHopkins 8y ago
      Space Invaders sneakers leave 3D printed footprints worth 01 point each! https://www.newarteditions.com/invader-sneakers-speed-balls/ https://www.newarteditions.com/invader-sneakers-speed-balls/ (Sorry, all sold out -- I mean GAME OVER!)
- kthejoker2 8y ago
  Baker Hughes GE has an awesome Hololens demo where they offload the processing to a GPU rack and get some insane voxels, resolutions and responsiveness. But yeah the onboard stuff is just soso. But of course you seem to be looking for a polished product,most of these AR solutions are aspirational and designed to help build reference implementations and AR Development capabilities.
empath75 8y ago
In comparison I was way more impressed by the oculus and vive than I expected to be. Vr gets a bit boring after a while but I’ve never seen anyone try it who didn’t have an expression of joy on their face.
- 1stcity3rdcoast 8y ago
  I tried Oculus for the first time yesterday and was very impressed. My last experience with VR was in the 90s, so my baseline was low, but it was a truly incredible experience.
- jarsin 8y ago
  VR is an experience like going to a movie theater to get lost in another world, which is why it has a future.

by taytus 8y ago

Groxx 8y ago

That was pretty much my experience with HoloLens. Uncomfortable headset, awkward and inaccurate hand gestures, and like a postage-stamp-size viewport. You couldn't see anything functional in the least due to viewport alone, and the low resolution killed any hope you may have had left. Tracking was mostly alright about 95% of the time, in an office setting which is probably borderline ideal (lots of high-contrast edges and corners all over), but even while relatively still it made plenty of mistakes. All of which I gather the Magic Leap is better on... by less than 50%. In two years. AR has unbelievably misleading advertising. To enough of a degree that I think they should be fined rather significantly. Remember the HoloLens Minecraft "demo" videos? Or the full 3D models on the user's desk, nearly the size of the screen or keyboard? You couldn't even cover a coffee mug at that distance.

solarkraft 8y ago
I was still somewhat impressed exactly by the HoloLenses very fast (and quite accurate) tracking. I think it was the absolutely right trade-off.
- Groxx 8y ago
  Yeah, most of the time it was very solid, only barely perceptible lag. Fairly impressive when it was working smoothly :) Issues I had were mostly when it failed and started sliding around while I stood still, or jumped a bit and stayed wrong for a couple seconds.
puranjay 8y ago
The technology hype cycle over the last decade has been pretty disappointing. I was promised by now, I'd be 3D printing my sneakers, spend my time killing zombies in VR, and paying for DLC with crypto Of these, only VR seems even remotely close to reaching its original promise
- iliis 8y ago
  About those sneakers: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:285404 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:285404 ;) But yeah, I agree that there's much too much hype around a lot of stuff...
  - DonHopkins 8y ago
    Space Invaders sneakers leave 3D printed footprints worth 01 point each! https://www.newarteditions.com/invader-sneakers-speed-balls/ https://www.newarteditions.com/invader-sneakers-speed-balls/ (Sorry, all sold out -- I mean GAME OVER!)
kthejoker2 8y ago
Baker Hughes GE has an awesome Hololens demo where they offload the processing to a GPU rack and get some insane voxels, resolutions and responsiveness. But yeah the onboard stuff is just soso. But of course you seem to be looking for a polished product,most of these AR solutions are aspirational and designed to help build reference implementations and AR Development capabilities.

empath75 8y ago

In comparison I was way more impressed by the oculus and vive than I expected to be. Vr gets a bit boring after a while but I’ve never seen anyone try it who didn’t have an expression of joy on their face.

1stcity3rdcoast 8y ago
I tried Oculus for the first time yesterday and was very impressed. My last experience with VR was in the 90s, so my baseline was low, but it was a truly incredible experience.
jarsin 8y ago
VR is an experience like going to a movie theater to get lost in another world, which is why it has a future.