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I saw some jobs in Berlin that payed around 70K Eur. Assuming it's before taxes, it means that after taxes it's around 3.8k/month; a bit low if you ask me. I k

I saw some jobs in Berlin that payed around 70K Eur. Assuming it's before taxes, it means that after taxes it's around 3.8k/month; a bit low if you ask me. I know pay is not the only factor, but heck, I make half in my home country, but the living costs are far lower (and I don't even pay rent).

oblio 8y ago
Salaries all over Europe are like that. Except for London (maybe) or Switzerland. Don't compare them to Silicon Valley or the US in general, you'll be disappointed.
itsthejb 8y ago
Are you comparing that salary to US salaries? Because the still relatively low cost of living in Berlin makes that anything but low
- codethief 8y ago
  Besides, the salary already includes social security and health insurance.
- Insanity 8y ago
  And the social benefits should not be ignored either (health care, child support, ..) That actually seems like a rather good salary indeed, surely from a Belgian point of view.
krautsourced 8y ago
70k is anything but low in Berlin. It is actually really, really high. For reference see here (monthly before tax) https://www.morgenpost.de/bin/bmo-213539703.jpg https://www.morgenpost.de/bin/bmo-213539703.jpg With that amount of money one could afford a very sweet place to live easily, and still have plenty of spending money for intellectual pursuits or whatever. Speaking English is no issue here, at least in the "hip" parts of town. Would I say it's the best place to live? Probably not (Switzerland would probably rank higher), but one could do a lot worse. And with a decent IT job it's easy living. Dirt cheap compared to Silicon Valley prices.
- Aeolun 8y ago
  You have to compare it with where you are coming from though. I might move from Tokyo to Berlin and due to a combination of cost of living and taxes have the same after tax income, even though absolutely €70000 is a fuckton more. That goes for anywhere in Europe though. I would recommend Tokyo as a great place to live overall, but intellectual and english, not so much :P
stef25 8y ago
> it means that after taxes it's around 3.8k/month; a bit low if you ask me 3.8K after taxes anywhere in W-Europe (outside of London) is pretty good salary
- eertami 8y ago
  London is pricy yes but 3.8k is not a bad salary for London. In fact it is about double the average London salary.

oblio 8y ago

Salaries all over Europe are like that. Except for London (maybe) or Switzerland. Don't compare them to Silicon Valley or the US in general, you'll be disappointed.

itsthejb 8y ago

Are you comparing that salary to US salaries? Because the still relatively low cost of living in Berlin makes that anything but low

codethief 8y ago
Besides, the salary already includes social security and health insurance.
Insanity 8y ago
And the social benefits should not be ignored either (health care, child support, ..) That actually seems like a rather good salary indeed, surely from a Belgian point of view.

krautsourced 8y ago

70k is anything but low in Berlin. It is actually really, really high. For reference see here (monthly before tax) https://www.morgenpost.de/bin/bmo-213539703.jpg https://www.morgenpost.de/bin/bmo-213539703.jpg With that amount of money one could afford a very sweet place to live easily, and still have plenty of spending money for intellectual pursuits or whatever. Speaking English is no issue here, at least in the "hip" parts of town. Would I say it's the best place to live? Probably not (Switzerland would probably rank higher), but one could do a lot worse. And with a decent IT job it's easy living. Dirt cheap compared to Silicon Valley prices.

Aeolun 8y ago
You have to compare it with where you are coming from though. I might move from Tokyo to Berlin and due to a combination of cost of living and taxes have the same after tax income, even though absolutely €70000 is a fuckton more. That goes for anywhere in Europe though. I would recommend Tokyo as a great place to live overall, but intellectual and english, not so much :P

stef25 8y ago

> it means that after taxes it's around 3.8k/month; a bit low if you ask me 3.8K after taxes anywhere in W-Europe (outside of London) is pretty good salary

eertami 8y ago
London is pricy yes but 3.8k is not a bad salary for London. In fact it is about double the average London salary.