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This is almost always the case with consistently successful companies - the CEOs get the coverage and the glory, but scratch the surface and you'll find a stell

This is almost always the case with consistently successful companies - the CEOs get the coverage and the glory, but scratch the surface and you'll find a stellar COO who makes the whole thing actually work.

RangerScience 8y ago
"Lightbulb things and battery things" - https://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-63-2/ https://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-63-2/
- __s 8y ago
  Making battery things just ends up with your name being an SI unit
wycs 8y ago
It should be noted that some people don't really want glory or fame, and are perfectly happy just becoming filthy rich. I think of fame, in this age of online mobs, as a curse, a sort of disfigurement that lives in the minds of other people.
- manicdee 8y ago
  I Gwynne’s case I am pretty sure what makes her happy is achieving the impossible and making it routine.
liftbigweights 8y ago
It isn't just the COO. An organization is successful because of a lot of great people. The CEO or COO are inconsequential. It's the organization that succeeds, not the CEO or COO or any individual. It's like a few years ago when steve jobs died, some people were claiming Apple was doomed. The "great man or woman" theory has been debunked enough that we know it is nonsense. But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO. So why is this news?
- sabertoothed 8y ago
  "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." That's just absolute BS.
- cdepatie 8y ago
  When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." and "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument.
  - liftbigweights 8y ago
    > When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." That was in reference to a particular CEO ro COO. It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. As I said, I was referring to the "great man or woman" theory. Of course a successful organization requires "stellar" employees at every level. > "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument. That remark was in reference to the "news" cycle. If every successful company has a stellar COO ( just like they have stellar janitors, mid level managers, etc ), why is it news? Could it be just because she is a woman? That was what I was implying. The only reason this is a story is because the media had to push out another woman story. As he noted, every successful company has a stellar COO. Wonder why they aren't getting articles in large newspapers?
    - BurningFrog 8y ago
      > It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. But, at least at a smaller/newer company, the CEO/COO has created the organization. It's not some thing that exists independently of the CEO/COO.
    - hazz99 8y ago
      > It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. Didn't Apple suffer for many years, before Jobs was brought back?
baq 8y ago
In this case Gwynne doesn't really need to outshine anyone and didn't need to for quite a while.

RangerScience 8y ago

"Lightbulb things and battery things" - https://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-63-2/ https://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-63-2/

__s 8y ago
Making battery things just ends up with your name being an SI unit

wycs 8y ago

It should be noted that some people don't really want glory or fame, and are perfectly happy just becoming filthy rich. I think of fame, in this age of online mobs, as a curse, a sort of disfigurement that lives in the minds of other people.

manicdee 8y ago
I Gwynne’s case I am pretty sure what makes her happy is achieving the impossible and making it routine.

liftbigweights 8y ago

It isn't just the COO. An organization is successful because of a lot of great people. The CEO or COO are inconsequential. It's the organization that succeeds, not the CEO or COO or any individual. It's like a few years ago when steve jobs died, some people were claiming Apple was doomed. The "great man or woman" theory has been debunked enough that we know it is nonsense. But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO. So why is this news?

sabertoothed 8y ago
"The CEO or COO are inconsequential." That's just absolute BS.
cdepatie 8y ago
When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." and "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument.
- liftbigweights 8y ago
  > When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." That was in reference to a particular CEO ro COO. It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. As I said, I was referring to the "great man or woman" theory. Of course a successful organization requires "stellar" employees at every level. > "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument. That remark was in reference to the "news" cycle. If every successful company has a stellar COO ( just like they have stellar janitors, mid level managers, etc ), why is it news? Could it be just because she is a woman? That was what I was implying. The only reason this is a story is because the media had to push out another woman story. As he noted, every successful company has a stellar COO. Wonder why they aren't getting articles in large newspapers?
  - BurningFrog 8y ago
    > It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. But, at least at a smaller/newer company, the CEO/COO has created the organization. It's not some thing that exists independently of the CEO/COO.
  - hazz99 8y ago
    > It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. Didn't Apple suffer for many years, before Jobs was brought back?

baq 8y ago

In this case Gwynne doesn't really need to outshine anyone and didn't need to for quite a while.