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Hmm. The top results for me are: Gritin - China - 12 Euro ~ 5 stars / 310 reviews "Amazon Choice" KLIM - China - 20 Euro ~ 5 star

Hmm. The top results for me are: Gritin - China - 12 Euro ~ 5 stars / 310 reviews "Amazon Choice" KLIM - China - 20 Euro ~ 5 stars / 864 reviews Panasonic - Japan - 8 Euro ~ 4 stars / 1.335 reviews Beats by Dr. Dre - USA - 22 Euro ~ 3 stars / 172 reviews qubbi - USA - 10 Euro ~ 4 stars / 48 reviews Anker - China - 20 Euro ~ 4 stars / 1176 reviews Mpow - China - 20 Euro ~ 5 stars / 463 reviews ALL of these companies manufacture most of their products in China. Anecdotally chinese companies appear to outperform foreign companies on quality among the popular choices - if review scores are anything to go by.

ljf 8y ago
Key line there: if review scores are anything to go by
have_faith 8y ago
They certainly outperform on gathering high review scores...
AJ007 8y ago
Do you have an adblocker running? I did the same search, I got one result from Panasonic. The rest were nonsense brands I've never heard of: omnigates, mpow, gloue, arrela, otium, actionpie, byz, etc..
- chmod775 8y ago
  I do have an adblocker, but results probably differ between amazon.de, amazon.co.uk, amazon.com, etc... Mine are the results I got on Amazon Germany.
WisNorCan 8y ago
I use Mpow headphones from Amazon. They work really well for running. I have tried many different brands and settled on these for price/quality ratio. The price also means I don’t need to worry about losing them which is a great “feature”.
bitexploder 8y ago
You can't use review scores. They are not a proxy for quality at all. They are a proxy for perceived value. I have noticed, subjective of course, that people rate more expensive products more harshly. If I buy some $5 head phones and they work alright I am really happpy. If I buy $200 head phones and they are not perfect I am going to be disappointed, my rating will reflect that. So you have to compare products that cost a similar amount to get a real feel for the product quality. Reviews of vastly different costed items doing the same thing are kind of meaningless.
- vorpalhex 8y ago
  That is how reviews work, yes. When I buy $5 headphones for the gym, I'm happy they generally don't have static and seem to work. If I buy $200 headphones for the office, I'm going to complain if the 13khz range is a bit muddy. Likewise, I'm happy when my $40 bookshelf doesn't fall over, but I expect more from a $400 bookshelf.
- chmod775 8y ago
  Yes. Obviously. Though those headphones are mostly in the same price range, and certainly not vastly differently priced. They're pretty much all low-end headphones. Yes. Even the Beats by Dr. Dre who like to pretend they're not.
RankingMember 8y ago
Can you check all those on FakeSpot.com and add the FakeSpot review? Would be interesting to see.
- chmod775 8y ago
  Doesn't appear to work for amazon.de, but amazon.co.uk has most of these under the same product IDs. Here are the grades according to that website: Gritin - A (90%) KLIM - F (62%) Panasonic - A (90%) Beats by Dr. Dre - Not available on .co.uk qubbi - Not enough reviews on .co.uk Anker - A (90%) Mpow - Not enough reviews on .co.uk
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
> ALL of these companies manufacture most of their products in China. As do Apple, Microsoft, Google and everyone else.
imtringued 8y ago
European and American brands have higher quality standards than Chinese brands. Whether the manufacturing happens in china or elsewhere is completely irrelevant to the actual quality of the product.
- chmod775 8y ago
  On average? Very likely. Probably. For popular global brands in the lucrative consumer electronics sector - where good reviews are everything - I am not so sure. > Whether the manufacturing happens in china or elsewhere is completely irrelevant to the actual quality of the product. Completely irrelevant? What makes you think that? Anecdotally again, most of those numerous bad reviews for Beats by Dr. Dre exist because apparently they tend to fall apart after only days of use. So much for western quality control.
atombender 8y ago
I believe Anker is American, though obviously manufactured in Asia (which is true about most American brands).
- chmod775 8y ago
  I looked each company up when I made that list and Anker is a 100% Chinese company/brand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anker_(electronics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anker_(electronics) > Anker is a brand of Chinese electronics company Anker Innovations [...]. Headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong [...]

ljf 8y ago

Key line there: if review scores are anything to go by

have_faith 8y ago

They certainly outperform on gathering high review scores...

AJ007 8y ago

Do you have an adblocker running? I did the same search, I got one result from Panasonic. The rest were nonsense brands I've never heard of: omnigates, mpow, gloue, arrela, otium, actionpie, byz, etc..

chmod775 8y ago
I do have an adblocker, but results probably differ between amazon.de, amazon.co.uk, amazon.com, etc... Mine are the results I got on Amazon Germany.

WisNorCan 8y ago

I use Mpow headphones from Amazon. They work really well for running. I have tried many different brands and settled on these for price/quality ratio. The price also means I don’t need to worry about losing them which is a great “feature”.

bitexploder 8y ago

You can't use review scores. They are not a proxy for quality at all. They are a proxy for perceived value. I have noticed, subjective of course, that people rate more expensive products more harshly. If I buy some $5 head phones and they work alright I am really happpy. If I buy $200 head phones and they are not perfect I am going to be disappointed, my rating will reflect that. So you have to compare products that cost a similar amount to get a real feel for the product quality. Reviews of vastly different costed items doing the same thing are kind of meaningless.

vorpalhex 8y ago
That is how reviews work, yes. When I buy $5 headphones for the gym, I'm happy they generally don't have static and seem to work. If I buy $200 headphones for the office, I'm going to complain if the 13khz range is a bit muddy. Likewise, I'm happy when my $40 bookshelf doesn't fall over, but I expect more from a $400 bookshelf.
chmod775 8y ago
Yes. Obviously. Though those headphones are mostly in the same price range, and certainly not vastly differently priced. They're pretty much all low-end headphones. Yes. Even the Beats by Dr. Dre who like to pretend they're not.

RankingMember 8y ago

Can you check all those on FakeSpot.com and add the FakeSpot review? Would be interesting to see.

chmod775 8y ago
Doesn't appear to work for amazon.de, but amazon.co.uk has most of these under the same product IDs. Here are the grades according to that website: Gritin - A (90%) KLIM - F (62%) Panasonic - A (90%) Beats by Dr. Dre - Not available on .co.uk qubbi - Not enough reviews on .co.uk Anker - A (90%) Mpow - Not enough reviews on .co.uk

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

> ALL of these companies manufacture most of their products in China. As do Apple, Microsoft, Google and everyone else.

imtringued 8y ago

European and American brands have higher quality standards than Chinese brands. Whether the manufacturing happens in china or elsewhere is completely irrelevant to the actual quality of the product.

chmod775 8y ago
On average? Very likely. Probably. For popular global brands in the lucrative consumer electronics sector - where good reviews are everything - I am not so sure. > Whether the manufacturing happens in china or elsewhere is completely irrelevant to the actual quality of the product. Completely irrelevant? What makes you think that? Anecdotally again, most of those numerous bad reviews for Beats by Dr. Dre exist because apparently they tend to fall apart after only days of use. So much for western quality control.

atombender 8y ago

I believe Anker is American, though obviously manufactured in Asia (which is true about most American brands).

chmod775 8y ago
I looked each company up when I made that list and Anker is a 100% Chinese company/brand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anker_(electronics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anker_(electronics) > Anker is a brand of Chinese electronics company Anker Innovations [...]. Headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong [...]