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What's your source on this? My impression, without having any particular evidence, but as a Swedish citizen, is that they follow a similar policy as American po
by valvar 8y ago
What's your source on this? My impression, without having any particular evidence, but as a Swedish citizen, is that they follow a similar policy as American police if their own safety is at risk. The main difference is that there are less weapons in Scandinavia.
- elbasti 8y agoSwedish police fires a gun, on average, about 30 times per year, with about half of those being "for effect" as opposed to being shot with the intent to kill. The united states doesn't track the number of times police shoot a gun, only the number of times police murder somebody. That number is over 1,000 people per year.[0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country
- O_H_E 8y agoI agree with the premise of all what you and others are saying, but for the sake of fairness we should not eliminate the size of the population from the equation
- coldtea 8y agoPercentages don't look good either. In fact they are an order of magnitude worse than the 1:1 ratio for most EU countries...
- O_H_E 8y agoI totally agree that the US is way more violent, was just pointing out something
- ceejayoz 8y agoPopulation doesn't change it much. The LAPD put over 100 rounds in one incident into two innocent women's truck when they were out delivering newspapers. The truck looked nothing like the suspect's vehicle. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/no-charges-8-lapd-shot-innocents-manhunt-article-1.2511683 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/no-charges-8-lapd-s... > When one of the women threw a newspaper onto the pavement in the early-morning hours, an officer believing the sound was a gunshot opened fire. Officers unable to see clearly into the truck sprayed it with 103 rounds, and hit seven nearby homes and nine other vehicles with gunshots and shotgun pellets. That's more rounds than Germany uses in most years for its entire 80M population, and more than the UK discharged in what looks like the last decade or so. In one shooting, in one city, against people who'd done nothing wrong.
- O_H_E 8y agoI totally agree that the US is way more violent, was just pointing out something
- Pudini 8y agoSo: 30 guns fired / 10.10^6 people vs 1 000 police murders / 325.10^6 people. 3.10^-6 guns fired per capita vs 3.10^-6 murders per capita. Couldn't find the Swedish police murders stats. I'd estimate on their police murders per capita to be 2 or 3 orders of magnitude less than the USA.
- vxNsr 8y agoOn the other hand Chicago had nearly 2 murders/day last year [0]. and 3/4 were from a gun, I certainly wouldn't wanna be the cop who has to walk those streets without one. [0]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago...
- coldtea 8y ago>What's your source on this? Statistics of police shootings. >follow a similar policy as American police if their own safety is at risk Doesn't take guns or actual risk. US cops thing their safety is "at risk" from a middle aged middle class black man sitting in a car with his kids beside them. Or an unarmed homeless person getting too rowdy.
- longerthoughts 8y ago>>What's your source on this? >Statistics of police shootings. Do you have any stats specifically on cases like this where the person killed was neither armed nor dangerous? Interested but haven't been able to find any.