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On McNeil Island, the only residents are dangerous sex offenders
- BodywearCam 8y agoWhat’s wrong? They should be grateful they’re not dead.
- stickfigure 8y agoI had never heard of this device before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_plethysmograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_plethysmograph It conjures to mind one of the scenes from A Clockwork Orange. I have to wonder if this really works, or if it has an especially high false-positive rate for people with weird medical fetishes.
- goldenkey 8y agoYou would hope some kind of control would be ran so as not to provide a false positive. Kind of crazy something so specific even exists..
- blattimwind 8y ago> though only 32% accurate, had the highest accuracy among methods of identifying which sexual offenders will go on to commit new sexual crimes i.e. a random number generator is more accurate.
- folli 8y agoSo if you invert its output, it will be more accurate than a rng?
- arcticbull 8y agoNo because then you have to invert the question too, and you’re back where you started.
- p1esk 8y agoWhat? No.
- probably_wrong 8y agoAccurate? Sure. But accuracy is only one part of the picture: a system with 32% accuracy but a 0% rate of false positives would be very useful.
- upofadown 8y agoThe results are combined with a polygraph test to improve the randomness...
- RankingMember 8y ago> A phallometric study indicated that men who are more homophobic show greater penile arousal to stimuli depicting gay sex than do less homophobic men. An interesting tidbit if there's any real scientific value to this device. The study: https://web.archive.org/web/20081030231209/http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20081030231209/http://www.oogach...
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoThey also note that the physical arousal may be entirely due to anxiety; and that the used definition of homophobia seems not to be accurate (ie not a phobia). FWIW there's a very important distinction between physical arousal and sexual attraction - ignoring that can be a source of great shame for some men (those who are abused/assaulted for example). I used to hate riding on the bus (because I'd get bullied), but I also commonly got erections on the bus (the vibrations); so was I really bus-sexual ...
- RankingMember 8y agoAn important point. I'm sure many young males might be classified scholar-sexual under similar classification methods due to similarly innocuous erections during class.
- sohn504 8y agoYea... sounds like they’re exactly where they belong. I thought it was insane that the article referenced a statistic about repeat offenders without mentioning what percentage of victims even report sexual assault or what the success rate of prosecution is. No thanks! I don’t care how many mediations or hours of yoga they do... they don’t even deserve to be isolated on an island.
- fouc 8y agoThis isn't about Pitcairn Island of the HMS Bounty descendants that I initially mistook this as.
- Uberphallus 8y agoYep. Some time ago I did some research on which was the most remote place on Earth, to travel just for the checkmark of "yeah I've done it". Pitcairn Island was one of the top contenders, noped it out of the list after learning about the stuff that happens there.
- adam-a 8y agoThe moral situation around sex-offences does seem to lead to some weird and unpleasant situations. This reminds me of the Julia Tuttle Causeway "colony", a group of sex offenders who were released but forced to live under a highway because they were legally not allowed within a certain radius of any school and this was the only spot in the state that would allow them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offe...
- kevinmchugh 8y agoMany states also bar sex offenders from living near public parks, and then jurisdictions will create tiny parks out of odd bits of land, to chase sex offenders away: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/building-tiny-parks-to-drive-sex-offenders-away.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/building-tiny-parks-to... Louis Theroux has done two documentaries on the subject, both very interesting.
- hyperbovine 8y agoIsn't it odd that you can murder someone, do 20 years, and have paid your debt to society, while a sex offense follows you around for the rest of your life. The punishment does not fit the crime in some cases.
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- pbhjpbhj 8y agoUsually a murder targets a particular person; whilst sex offences target categories of people.
- hyperbovine 8y agoSorry, but this makes no sense whatsoever. We don't convict people of crimes based on the category of people they target.
- bashallah 8y agoThe title is misleading. There’s 9-ish residents that live on McNeil, and they all work for the prison. Buddy of mine used to date the wardens daughter. Had to ride the prison ferry to their dope-ass house that was on sex offender island
- bashallah 8y agoHoly fuck this island costs WA tax payers $39,619,104 _just_ for the “inmates” per year
- ceejayoz 8y agoTry NYS on for size. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/nyregion/citys-annual-cost-per-inmate-is-nearly-168000-study-says.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/nyregion/citys-annual-cos... > New York State was the most expensive, with an average cost of $60,000 per prison inmate. [New York City] paid $167,731 to feed, house and guard each inmate last year, according to a study the Independent Budget Office released this week. The governor proposed free community college for inmates, citing drastic reductions in recidivism rates - it would've paid for itself many times over - but voters flipped out.
- throwaway5752 8y agoThat's, what, a bit less than $200k per inmate? Food, shelter, plumbing, facilities upkeep, medical/psychological care, and very high security costs? That really isn't a surprising figure. Prison are incredibly expensive. It's a great argument for minimizing prison populations to only people that pose immediate threats to others and focusing as much as possible on reducing recidivism.
- NullPrefix 8y agoHow did you arrive at that 200k number? 39.6 / 9 = 4.4 millions each
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- simplicio 8y agoSeems sort of bizarre that the review hearings are done in front of a jury, rather then some sort of panel of people with relevant expertise. The person has already been found guilty, so there isn't really any judgement call to make as far as the facts are concerned. The cynic in me thinks this is done just because no-one wants to take the responsibility of releasing these people, since if even one goes on to commit a sensational crime, the person who made the call to release them will get pilloried by the public (and probably, by their own conscience). So the jury provides a way to pass on the responsibility for the call.
- testvox 8y agoWell yes, no politician wants to become the next Dukakis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton#Horton_in_the_1988_presidential_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton#Horton_in_the_19...
- Fjolsvith 8y agoExperts offer evidence and testimony, and the offender is given a chance to refute.
- stevespang 8y agoOnly in Amerika, the leading "holier than thou" country in our world which imprisons more citizens per capita than any other nation on earth, incl. China, Russia, North Korea, etc.
- setgree 8y agoTotally not on-topic but the attorney's name -- Kelly Canary -- is unusual enough that I googled it. Is she the former lead singer of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickless https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickless ?
- petepete 8y agoLooks like it, yes > People may have heard of Kelly Canary because of her work Seattle grunge–era bands such as Dickless and Earth, but she now spends her days more often in front of a jury instead of a crowd of concert goers. From bartender at the Cha Cha to staff attorney for the Innocence Project here in Washington, she has led an unconventional life. http://www2.kuow.org/program.php?id=24366 http://www2.kuow.org/program.php?id=24366
- setgree 8y agoholy shit she played with Earth! I aspire to be good at one thing and this person is distinguished in at least two fields
- smrq 8y agoIncidentally, for those not familiar with early Earth, she is a guest on their debut EP, Extra-Capsular Extraction, along with a friend of the band you might have heard of named Kurt Cobain.
- FireBeyond 8y agoOne of the more practical challenges as an EMS provider nearby is that it is relatively "isolated", requiring ferry or boat transport for sick patients as there is no hospital on the island. This requires staffing challenges for escorting etc, and the logistics of transport. On more than one occasion, delays in getting to definitive emergency care have resulted in liability for the State, including heart attack victims who took to long to get to the hospital.
- tomc1985 8y agoNo life flight helicopters?
- FireBeyond 8y agoThe state has little interest in a $35K airlift ride for non-life threatening conditions.