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This seems like a reasonable solution. It's basically how we handle telecom and utility billing.
by smelendez 8y ago
This seems like a reasonable solution. It's basically how we handle telecom and utility billing.
- MBCook 8y agoHell, it’s how we handle restaurant billing.
- nraynaud 8y agolet's talk about the tip again?
- mcny 8y agoIf it is mandatory, it is not a tip. My old boss told me how he was at a dinner with our Australian overlords (long story) and they said nobody will leave any tip. If a tip is mandatory, it is a service charge. I don't go to the extreme of never tipping but I usually do not tip if the bill has an itemized service charge. Services that are "out of network" are not optional. (warning: may make you angry) https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/us/drive-by-doctoring-surprise-medical-bills.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/us/drive-by-doctoring-sur... (2014) archive fo: https://archive.fo/TBmrO https://archive.fo/TBmrO screenshot https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/adb38500-3a76-4648-985d-c2059221d966.jpg https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/adb3850...
- jjeaff 8y agoWhen there is an itemized service charge, tipping is rarely expected. It is an option, but not expected.
- NeedMoreTea 8y agoYet there always seems to be a space for it, or a step to skip. Sure makes it seem expected when it's not simply leaving bills on the table before you leave.
- MBCook 8y agoIf it fixes all other medical billing, I am OK with doctors office is asking me for an optional tip based on how good I think the service is. That would be LIGHTYEARS easier to understand than what currently exists.
- arcticbull 8y agoFriendly reminder, those things are optional, and not human rights.
- jedmeyers 8y agoBeing provided healthcare is a “human right”? Sounds more like forced labor to me.
- arcticbull 8y agoThat's absurd. Nobody in any OECD country where healthcare is a human right is required by law to practice medicine. People do it as a public service, because they care. No doctor in Canada has a whip behind them as they apply bandaids. In fact, it's absurdly difficult to get into medical school in Canada, but people do it anyways because it's a mid-six-figure good job. That people who are sick are entitled to healthcare via voluntary labor is in violation of nobody's rights and you know it. Not even Canada's furthest-right-wing parties advocate privatizing healthcare. They don't even talk about it. Because Canadians know that fully private healthcare is a shit system. Healthcare as a right is your freedom to pursue your life regardless of the circumstances of your birth. It's the ultimate freedom - the freedom from worry, from illness, from bankruptcy. Freedom to pursue your own business or being an independent contractor without fear of death. Your "slavery with extra steps" argument is long dead. Maybe read this? From 2009. [1] [1] https://www.pri.org/stories/2009-10-15/canadian-health-care-its-their-right https://www.pri.org/stories/2009-10-15/canadian-health-care-...
- zo1 8y agoIt's forced labor in that the state takes the proceeds of some of your labor in order to pay those doctors to treat others. I.e. Taxes. No one is saying that doctors are put into work-camps or threatened into working.
- arcticbull 8y agoOh, I see - so are you suggesting the interstate system, the fire department, the post office, the public school system, the water pipes, electricity, gas, medicare, medicaid, the army, every regulatory body, and so on are all forced labor? If so, great, count me in. It feels like an entirely arbitrary place to draw the line to say you support public education and the fire department but not public health. If you support neither, well, the dark ages are that way. Literally because the power grid is socialized. Either way, nobody's forced to work. Neither you, nor your doctor.