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Until they can provide some data that say the 50 million number is a fact, I don't believe it's that low. Every breach starts out on the low end, and miraculou
by genzoman 8y ago
Until they can provide some data that say the 50 million number is a fact, I don't believe it's that low. Every breach starts out on the low end, and miraculously ends up being double or triple as they do "more research" and the initial anger dies down.
- dylan604 8y agoBut in today's reality, that revised number is framed as fake news. Somebody has an axe to grind, and is artificially inflating the numbers. I am totally baffled in the post-fact world.
- ddebernardy 8y agoIt's only a post-fact world on a handful of media outlets.
- dylan604 8y agoSadly, where I live, Texas, that handful of media outlets is what is viewed by the majority. Also, relating back to FB, it has become an echo chamber. Most people lock into one source, and once they are locked in, that information becomes gospel. They favorite/like/follow these sources, and that's all they will accept. Before I left FB, I was inundated with other people's posts from this handful of media outlets. People I know and consider friends, but this is what they are into. It was tiresome and baffling.
- sct202 8y agoI'm pretty sure they logged out more than <5% (90m of 2B) of their users, because of the people I talk to on a daily basis on Messenger like well over 2/3s got logged out. I could see if they meant 90m of American users or something.
- arnaudsm 8y agoWhy the downvotes ? This is important data, and no one gave this information in the whole thread.
- nkozyra 8y agoProbably because it's entirely anecdotal and attempts to extrapolate from such a small sample size.
- azernik 8y agoIt's more a problem of a biased sample than a small sample - this attack spread through the friend network, and so if one of your Facebook friends is in the attacked/vulnerable group then other ones are also likely to be.
- nkozyra 8y agoSure, but that's very different than the logical problem I'm talking about.
- ericd 8y agoBecause his friend group is not a random sampling.
- 303space 8y agoAlso if the tokens can be used for 3rd party “Sign in through Facebook” authentication this just compromised millions of people’s entire digital identities for everything from dating sites to financial logins.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoThey can, and this is why I completely disabled that feature a while back.
- freddie_mercury 8y agoI don't think you understand how big the world outside of the US. They could logout 50% of all Americans and it amounts to 5% of Facebook. How many people in other countries have you spoken to before drawing your conclusion?
- CWuestefeld 8y agoI was logged out twice, once in the morning and again in the evening - I came back to this discussion to see if there was some explanation. (No, it's not that it was just two devices - I had to log in four times just on my phone. Once for Messenger, once for FB itself; during each occurrence.)
- DCoder 8y agoHofstadter's Law, data breach edition: the breach's always worse than you think it is, even after you factor in Hofstadter's Law.