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>TL;DR I want Captain Ahab at the helm, chasing his White Whale, swinging for the fences. I want people with the integrity not to commit securities fraud.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
Morality is shades of gray. Nobody died, and I have yet to see the damages done by his statements quantified. You and I want different values in leaders, and that's okay.
- notfromhere 8y ago
  "nobody died" is the standard now?
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  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    No, but "I was high and tweeted some nonsense" shouldn't be a standard either. I'm not saying Musk should get off scot-free, but it'll be sad to see Tesla suffer, when companies like e.g. Uber or Equifax, for which dishonesty and negligence is standard operating practice, continue to function with no consequences. But then, I guess the universe isn't fair.
    - thrill 8y ago
      It is the necessary standard when you're playing with other people's money.
      - tomp 8y ago
        They're playing with their own money. Noone is forced to invest (or short).
Cthulhu_ 8y ago
What about the people that would benefit from Tesla's stocks dropping and did a big media push to highlight Tesla cars' shortcomings? It's not normal for a car accident to be in the media for weeks afterwards.
- matwood 8y ago
  Why do you think there is some grand conspiracy? Media attention works both ways. TSLA/Musk forced themselves into popular culture and they have benefitted greatly (a completely disconnected from reality stock price that has allowed them to raise an enormous amount of debt) from that free media attention. But, it also means increased scrutiny. It is a similar situation with Apple and iPhones. If the Pixel has some bug, you might see a blip on an Android fan site. If the iPhone has a bug it makes headlines for days.
- mcguire 8y ago
  You mean the series of accidents caused by failures of the revolutionary new technology that is going to change every aspect of civilization?

toomuchtodo 8y ago

Morality is shades of gray. Nobody died, and I have yet to see the damages done by his statements quantified. You and I want different values in leaders, and that's okay.

notfromhere 8y ago
"nobody died" is the standard now?
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- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  No, but "I was high and tweeted some nonsense" shouldn't be a standard either. I'm not saying Musk should get off scot-free, but it'll be sad to see Tesla suffer, when companies like e.g. Uber or Equifax, for which dishonesty and negligence is standard operating practice, continue to function with no consequences. But then, I guess the universe isn't fair.
  - thrill 8y ago
    It is the necessary standard when you're playing with other people's money.
    - tomp 8y ago
      They're playing with their own money. Noone is forced to invest (or short).

Cthulhu_ 8y ago

What about the people that would benefit from Tesla's stocks dropping and did a big media push to highlight Tesla cars' shortcomings? It's not normal for a car accident to be in the media for weeks afterwards.

matwood 8y ago
Why do you think there is some grand conspiracy? Media attention works both ways. TSLA/Musk forced themselves into popular culture and they have benefitted greatly (a completely disconnected from reality stock price that has allowed them to raise an enormous amount of debt) from that free media attention. But, it also means increased scrutiny. It is a similar situation with Apple and iPhones. If the Pixel has some bug, you might see a blip on an Android fan site. If the iPhone has a bug it makes headlines for days.
mcguire 8y ago
You mean the series of accidents caused by failures of the revolutionary new technology that is going to change every aspect of civilization?