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The question I would ask is: once you have the ability to run code and store data on the network itself (which Cloudflare effectively is), why do you need an or

The question I would ask is: once you have the ability to run code and store data on the network itself (which Cloudflare effectively is), why do you need an origin at all?

scoggs 8y ago
I could be understanding the crux of your question wrong but I believe the point the article and technology makes over and over is that it offloads nearly all of the stress and communication off of the backend and instead replaces it with a Worker KV which converts into becoming one static call and then everything is handled within the Worker. The applications seemed vast and only limited by creativity, as well.
tyingq 8y ago
One write per second, per key plus eventually consistent does limit the functionality a bit. You're right for some use cases though.
- hamandcheese 8y ago
  Where are you getting 1 write per second from?
  - jweather 8y ago
    1 write per second per key. It's from the Limits and Pricing section of the technical post: https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-with-workers-kv/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-with-workers-kv/
    - tracker1 8y ago
      Thanks, that begins to answer some of my questions/concerns.
manigandham 8y ago
You work for Cloudflare so that's a fun question but realistically there are still plenty of limitations. The script size, number of routes, KV consistency, write limits, and simple get/put API, etc. It can work for simple apps but there's a long way to go before any serious enterprise system will be hosted entirely on a FaaS system like Workers.
- rita3ko 8y ago
  If you’re having trouble with script size and route limitations, would love to chat. We’re working on providing more flexibility in that realm. rita at cloudflare.
adventured 8y ago
> why do you need an origin at all? At the point that CF replaces the origin, it is the origin. The confusion in your query is the idea that "origin" is a rigid, fixed concept rather than flexible.
wisepass 8y ago
Reduncy, avoid vendor lockdown, Worker KV is amazing. On the billion scale it is expensive.
_pmf_ 8y ago
Accidentally serverless.

The question I would ask is: once you have the ability to run code and store data on the network itself (which Cloudflare effectively is), why do you need an origin at all?

scoggs 8y ago

I could be understanding the crux of your question wrong but I believe the point the article and technology makes over and over is that it offloads nearly all of the stress and communication off of the backend and instead replaces it with a Worker KV which converts into becoming one static call and then everything is handled within the Worker. The applications seemed vast and only limited by creativity, as well.

tyingq 8y ago

One write per second, per key plus eventually consistent does limit the functionality a bit. You're right for some use cases though.

hamandcheese 8y ago
Where are you getting 1 write per second from?
- jweather 8y ago
  1 write per second per key. It's from the Limits and Pricing section of the technical post: https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-with-workers-kv/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-with-workers-kv/
  - tracker1 8y ago
    Thanks, that begins to answer some of my questions/concerns.

manigandham 8y ago

You work for Cloudflare so that's a fun question but realistically there are still plenty of limitations. The script size, number of routes, KV consistency, write limits, and simple get/put API, etc. It can work for simple apps but there's a long way to go before any serious enterprise system will be hosted entirely on a FaaS system like Workers.

rita3ko 8y ago
If you’re having trouble with script size and route limitations, would love to chat. We’re working on providing more flexibility in that realm. rita at cloudflare.

adventured 8y ago

> why do you need an origin at all? At the point that CF replaces the origin, it is the origin. The confusion in your query is the idea that "origin" is a rigid, fixed concept rather than flexible.

wisepass 8y ago

Reduncy, avoid vendor lockdown, Worker KV is amazing. On the billion scale it is expensive.

_pmf_ 8y ago

Accidentally serverless.