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There goes any level of free speech...

tempuser24 8y ago
I'm not sure I follow, but Cloudflare has a history of being a strong defender of free speech. They even defended Neo-Nazis. https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/
- pickleman 8y ago
  They stopped protecting them, and it looks like it might have been because they were eyeing this partnership. Microsoft threatened to remove services for Gab because they didn't like what some of the users were saying. I don't necessarily agree with any of those people's opinions on things, but it's a canary in the coal mine. Microsoft and Google are anti-free speech, and if Cloudflare starts relying on them, they can threaten to remove services if Cloudflare doesn't kiss the ring and do what they're told (i.e. censor thought crimes).
  - matt4077 8y ago
    Yeah... Of course! To join this marketing alliance, Google decided, more than a year ago, to demand that CF sever ties with exactly one of their customers. Apart from how wacky that conspiracy theory is: Do you believe you can devalue Cloudflare's stated motivation by replacing it with a financial motive instead? Because it would seem to me that your theory would just shift that moral motivation to Google, no? Unless, of course, Google themselves are in turn pressured by some even more powerful group. Who's that? George Soros? Hillary Clinton?
    - pickleman 8y ago
      There is absolutely an industry built around doing corporate shakedowns. Pretty much every major corporation has been sued https://www.wired.com/story/new-lawsuit-exposes-googles-desperation-to-improve-diversity/ https://www.wired.com/story/new-lawsuit-exposes-googles-desp... You can wave your arms and shout "conspiracy! conspiracy!" like a mad man if you want, but that won't change facts and what's really going on. You're acting smug and condescending because you think you're right, but the reality is that you are the one that doesn't know what you're talking about. Maybe someday Netflix will release a documentary that wraps up all the facts and puts a bow on it for you and you'll be able to understand it.

I'm not sure I follow, but Cloudflare has a history of being a strong defender of free speech. They even defended Neo-Nazis. https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/

pickleman 8y ago
They stopped protecting them, and it looks like it might have been because they were eyeing this partnership. Microsoft threatened to remove services for Gab because they didn't like what some of the users were saying. I don't necessarily agree with any of those people's opinions on things, but it's a canary in the coal mine. Microsoft and Google are anti-free speech, and if Cloudflare starts relying on them, they can threaten to remove services if Cloudflare doesn't kiss the ring and do what they're told (i.e. censor thought crimes).
- matt4077 8y ago
  Yeah... Of course! To join this marketing alliance, Google decided, more than a year ago, to demand that CF sever ties with exactly one of their customers. Apart from how wacky that conspiracy theory is: Do you believe you can devalue Cloudflare's stated motivation by replacing it with a financial motive instead? Because it would seem to me that your theory would just shift that moral motivation to Google, no? Unless, of course, Google themselves are in turn pressured by some even more powerful group. Who's that? George Soros? Hillary Clinton?
  - pickleman 8y ago
    There is absolutely an industry built around doing corporate shakedowns. Pretty much every major corporation has been sued https://www.wired.com/story/new-lawsuit-exposes-googles-desperation-to-improve-diversity/ https://www.wired.com/story/new-lawsuit-exposes-googles-desp... You can wave your arms and shout "conspiracy! conspiracy!" like a mad man if you want, but that won't change facts and what's really going on. You're acting smug and condescending because you think you're right, but the reality is that you are the one that doesn't know what you're talking about. Maybe someday Netflix will release a documentary that wraps up all the facts and puts a bow on it for you and you'll be able to understand it.