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Based on what I know of the Chrome team, it was probably the conclusion of some UX manager or the result of a user study they did around Google authentication.
by nhf 8y ago
Based on what I know of the Chrome team, it was probably the conclusion of some UX manager or the result of a user study they did around Google authentication. If I had to guess: their end goal is not explicitly to collect more advertising data for Google, but it's to minimize friction around the use of Google services. This leads to decisions like the cookie one.
- fermienrico 8y agoI don’t know why but I get an intense feeling of disgust at “people at higher position” making stupid decisions like this one. My cynicism kicks in and I feel like they know exactly what they’re doing, but the bottom line is more important than anything including causing a PR storm on HN and tech blogs. Strip down emperor’s clothes and truly reveal the nature of big corporations and their greed to ruin everything for the benefit of the shareholders and their bonus targets - ethics, privacy and environment. Perhaps I have a problem with extreme levels of cynicism.
- romed 8y agoIn my experience at Google, "people at higher positions" do not really make these kinds of decisions. Someone at the leafmost position in the organization comes up with some research and recommendations and if nobody stops them, they go ahead and do it. It's actually really disorganized.
- fermienrico 8y agoI feel like integrating auto sign in, tracking and Google cookies is less of a disorganized decision and more of a premeditated, carefully snuck in effort for their ads business. All the stars align for the bottom line. Just look at the state of Android. Try being a cell phone OEM who wants to use Android but without Google integration. Impossible.
- lern_too_spel 8y ago> Try being a cell phone OEM who wants to use Android but without Google integration. Impossible. Tell that to Vivo, Oppo, Honor, Huawei, Xiaomi, Meizu, OnePlus, Lenovo, Qiku, Smartisan, Amazon, etc.
- fermienrico 8y agoYet most of them have to install play store. There is no going away from Google completely unless you're Amazon on large budget and you make a big branch off Android source.
- computerfriend 8y agoNot in China.
- snaky 8y ago> most of them have to install play store Not in China. Some of them have an "International ROM" with play store, but not because they have to, just for non-Chinese users convenience.
- ascorbic 8y agoOK, try being and OEM who wants to use Android but without Google integration in a country where Google is legal. I think Amazon backs up that point, not yours.
- snaky 8y agoGoogle is legal in Russia, and there is a rumour Yandex is going to launch Android smartphone in a month or so. And the store.yandex.com is up.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoNow that you've extended it beyond phones, tell that to Comcast, Samsung, Nikon, etc.
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- espeed 8y agoC'mon, that's a bit of a cartoon characterization. Privacy related stuff must go through legal first when a change is more than just testing a shade of blue. It's not the Wild West in there.
- onion2k 8y agoIf I had to guess: their end goal is not explicitly to collect more advertising data for Google, but it's to minimize friction around the use of Google services. How can you have one without the other? Google services exist to drive advertising. Anything to make a Google service better for the user has a corresponding impact on Google's ad business.
- notyourday 8y agoAnd no one from the engineering of the chrome team had balls to tell the manager "No, not doing it. It is wrong".