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Yeah, but my parents _understand_ Facebook collects/sells their data. But they don't _care_ enough to stop using Facebook.
by amdelamar 8y ago
Yeah, but my parents _understand_ Facebook collects/sells their data. But they don't _care_ enough to stop using Facebook.
- JoshMnem 8y agoMost people incorrectly think along the lines of "they have all my data already, so there's nothing I can do." Most probably also believe that many of the things that are going on are illegal and that someone is watching out for their interests. If they really understood the consequences of the data collection on a deeper level, most people wouldn't agree to it.
- inetknght 8y agoI can confirm: there are a lot of things that friends, coworkers, and family all think are illegal and yet when I tell them to call law enforcement, they then ask "but who do I call?" followed by "I can't afford to hire a lawyer" They know what's happening is wrong. They don't know how to stop it. But they do still need to browse the web.
- reificator 8y agoThey may understand it on a superficial level, but do they understand it on a practical one? Everyone "understands" that Facebook collects user data. It's the contextual understanding that makes techies uneasy.
- throwawaymath 8y agoWhat you're saying is a pretty condescending way to treat other people's opinions. You're essentially questioning whether or not they really understand (complete with scare quotes) if they don't share your opinion. It's not the "contextual understanding" - or any kind of understanding - that makes some techies uneasy. It's their own opinions and personal comfortability with regard to data monetization. Many people understand their data is monetized in myriad ways and fully don't care. Asking if they actually understand is only going to patronize them.
- ddingus 8y agoActually, they are questioning whether understanding makes sense, given people are unaware, uninformed. The answer on all that is advocacy. They may still not care, and that is fine. At least it is with eyes wide open. Professionals do that sort of thing. It is consideration, not condescension.
- reificator 8y agoI get where you're coming from, but it applies to me equally in plenty of other domains. There are countless things I understand the basics of but am not an expert in. That's why we specialize, because we can't be experts in everything all the time. I don't mean it to be condescending, I mean to express that I can know that stars are powered by nuclear reactions and yet not have a firm grasp of what that really entails. Most people, including myself, have a shallow understanding of a lot of things, and a deep understanding of very few things relatively speaking.
- Aeolun 8y agoAnd yet, given a parallel into what is happening as if it were a different company ‘e.g. would you be fine with our man standing outside your house and observing your every movement as a condition of service’, most of these people that ‘understand’ switch to WTF?! No! If you then ask them to stop using Chrome or Facebook it’s suddenly ‘different’. The only thing that’s different is that they can remain blissfully unaware of it.
- rifung 8y agoI mean I'm a "techie" and I think I understand. I still don't care..
- reificator 8y agoDidn't say you had to...
- rifung 8y agoEarlier comment said "Once people understand, they care." Your comment basically implied "maybe they don't really understand which is why they don't care". So I am refuting the original statement because I presumably do understand, and I still don't care.
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- propogandist 8y agoIt seems he's employed by Google