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So Microsoft is failing because Apple, Google and Nintendo is performing better in seperate markets ? What about the Nintendo Office Suite, the Apple SQL Server

by jp 16y ago

So Microsoft is failing because Apple, Google and Nintendo is performing better in seperate markets ? What about the Nintendo Office Suite, the Apple SQL Server or the Google Zune ?

ratsbane 16y ago
The Apple SQL Server is MySQL or Postgres. The Google Zune is Android. Lots of people still pay the premium price for Microsoft Office but they don't need to. I haven't used it in years. Instead I use Google Docs and OpenOffice.
- aphexairlines 16y ago
  How is this an argument? You personally don't use a product, ergo it's dying?
  - ratsbane 16y ago
    That clearly wasn't my point. http://blog.rescuetime.com/2010/06/17/google-is-eating-microsofts-lunch-one-tasty-bite-at-a-time/ http://blog.rescuetime.com/2010/06/17/google-is-eating-micro...
    - recoiledsnake 16y ago
      Those numbers look highly improbable, especially coming from such a small subset. This article shows the number of Office online users in just the first 100 days after launch as 20 million, compared to 25 million for Google Apps. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2013086938_microsoftofficewebappssays20millionhaveusedit.html http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/20130869...
      - Matt_Cutts 16y ago
        Besides those 20M, MSFT recently announced 30 million active Windows Live Spaces users: http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-Windows-Live-Spaces-already-dead-WordPresscom-will-only-get-1-of-30M-users/1285781027 http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-Windows-...
jimbokun 16y ago
"What about the Nintendo Office Suite, the Apple SQL Server or the Google Zune ?" They're smart enough not to invest billions into markets where they have no particular expertise, but make bets that play to their strengths, instead. Apple in particular. It's easy to forget it wasn't long ago that the Mac was the lion's share of their revenue. iPod, iPhone, iPad have all added revenue and profits from day one. The same can't be said for Microsoft's attempts to expand into new markets. Which is why Apple surpassed them in market cap, which still sounds ridiculous to me remembering what the situation in the 90s.
Keyframe 16y ago
Nintendo Navision :) Microsoft is huge, I wonder what is the current breakdown of their income. Last from what I remember (2008-ish) was that Business & Office group was the largest percentage, followed by OS and then Server and Tools, Entertainment and devices, Online Services.

by jp 16y ago

So Microsoft is failing because Apple, Google and Nintendo is performing better in seperate markets ? What about the Nintendo Office Suite, the Apple SQL Server or the Google Zune ?

ratsbane 16y ago

The Apple SQL Server is MySQL or Postgres. The Google Zune is Android. Lots of people still pay the premium price for Microsoft Office but they don't need to. I haven't used it in years. Instead I use Google Docs and OpenOffice.

aphexairlines 16y ago
How is this an argument? You personally don't use a product, ergo it's dying?
- ratsbane 16y ago
  That clearly wasn't my point. http://blog.rescuetime.com/2010/06/17/google-is-eating-microsofts-lunch-one-tasty-bite-at-a-time/ http://blog.rescuetime.com/2010/06/17/google-is-eating-micro...
  - recoiledsnake 16y ago
    Those numbers look highly improbable, especially coming from such a small subset. This article shows the number of Office online users in just the first 100 days after launch as 20 million, compared to 25 million for Google Apps. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2013086938_microsoftofficewebappssays20millionhaveusedit.html http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/20130869...
    - Matt_Cutts 16y ago
      Besides those 20M, MSFT recently announced 30 million active Windows Live Spaces users: http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-Windows-Live-Spaces-already-dead-WordPresscom-will-only-get-1-of-30M-users/1285781027 http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-Windows-...

jimbokun 16y ago

"What about the Nintendo Office Suite, the Apple SQL Server or the Google Zune ?" They're smart enough not to invest billions into markets where they have no particular expertise, but make bets that play to their strengths, instead. Apple in particular. It's easy to forget it wasn't long ago that the Mac was the lion's share of their revenue. iPod, iPhone, iPad have all added revenue and profits from day one. The same can't be said for Microsoft's attempts to expand into new markets. Which is why Apple surpassed them in market cap, which still sounds ridiculous to me remembering what the situation in the 90s.

Keyframe 16y ago

Nintendo Navision :) Microsoft is huge, I wonder what is the current breakdown of their income. Last from what I remember (2008-ish) was that Business & Office group was the largest percentage, followed by OS and then Server and Tools, Entertainment and devices, Online Services.