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why not Safari? Or is the issue non-MacOS OSs

by plg 8y ago

freeone3000 8y ago
That's a pretty significant issue. "Oh, it's a great browser! No, it doesn't work on 95% of computers."
- chii 8y ago
  but it only needs to work on _your_ computer (or whoever you're making the recommendation to).
  - tdb7893 8y ago
    The problem for me is that no one I know has a mac (I think their market share is like 10 percent). It's too expensive for many of the people I know and the rest play video games so they can't use a mac.
    - sandov 8y ago
      And in this forum, I would guess the OS being proprietary is a deal braker for many, including me.
      - h1d 8y ago
        That is a pure assumption. I don't use Linux for desktop.
        SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Well that settles it, the "many" have spoken.
  - sam0x17 8y ago
    My computer isn't a mac.
ChristianBundy 8y ago
I use Epiphany (aka GNOME Web) and it's like Safari: a minimal WebKit-based browser with no Google integration, but it's cross-platform, open source, and features Firefox sync integration for history/bookmarks/passwords/etc. I can't recommend it enough.
- hjek 8y ago
  And it does have a built-in ad blocker.
- letmeaskaq7532 8y ago
  I am never going to use any GNOME product if intend to use it for more than a week. Too many breaking changes, too many feature changes, too often.
  - ChristianBundy 8y ago
    I might recommend using an operating system that matches your values. Maybe something like Debian? I have my own criticisms of the GNOME project, but I really enjoy their release cycle.
bla2 8y ago
Safari isn't open source, only the rendering engine is. Doesn't matter to most, but does matter a great deal to some.
sneak 8y ago
Safari is worlds less hardened than Chrome from a security standpoint.
- ronaldj 8y ago
  Evidence?
  - bowyakka 8y ago
    https://securityzap.com/pwn2own-2017-chrome-remains-winner-browser-security/ https://securityzap.com/pwn2own-2017-chrome-remains-winner-b... https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224/product_id-15031/year-2017/Google-Chrome.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224... https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-2935/year-2017/Apple-Safari.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/p... I am using 2017 because 2018 is not over yet

why not Safari? Or is the issue non-MacOS OSs

by plg 8y ago

why not Safari? Or is the issue non-MacOS OSs

freeone3000 8y ago

That's a pretty significant issue. "Oh, it's a great browser! No, it doesn't work on 95% of computers."

chii 8y ago
but it only needs to work on _your_ computer (or whoever you're making the recommendation to).
- tdb7893 8y ago
  The problem for me is that no one I know has a mac (I think their market share is like 10 percent). It's too expensive for many of the people I know and the rest play video games so they can't use a mac.
  - sandov 8y ago
    And in this forum, I would guess the OS being proprietary is a deal braker for many, including me.
    - h1d 8y ago
      That is a pure assumption. I don't use Linux for desktop.
      - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Well that settles it, the "many" have spoken.
- sam0x17 8y ago
  My computer isn't a mac.

ChristianBundy 8y ago

I use Epiphany (aka GNOME Web) and it's like Safari: a minimal WebKit-based browser with no Google integration, but it's cross-platform, open source, and features Firefox sync integration for history/bookmarks/passwords/etc. I can't recommend it enough.

hjek 8y ago
And it does have a built-in ad blocker.
letmeaskaq7532 8y ago
I am never going to use any GNOME product if intend to use it for more than a week. Too many breaking changes, too many feature changes, too often.
- ChristianBundy 8y ago
  I might recommend using an operating system that matches your values. Maybe something like Debian? I have my own criticisms of the GNOME project, but I really enjoy their release cycle.

bla2 8y ago

Safari isn't open source, only the rendering engine is. Doesn't matter to most, but does matter a great deal to some.

sneak 8y ago

Safari is worlds less hardened than Chrome from a security standpoint.

ronaldj 8y ago
Evidence?
- bowyakka 8y ago
  https://securityzap.com/pwn2own-2017-chrome-remains-winner-browser-security/ https://securityzap.com/pwn2own-2017-chrome-remains-winner-b... https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224/product_id-15031/year-2017/Google-Chrome.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224... https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-2935/year-2017/Apple-Safari.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/p... I am using 2017 because 2018 is not over yet