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Why he should believe me? Because you documented the idea and either copied the manager on the initial proposal to your lead, or you mailed it to yourself so t

Why he should believe me? Because you documented the idea and either copied the manager on the initial proposal to your lead, or you mailed it to yourself so that you could pull up the email and show it to him in a situation like this.

arayh 8y ago
Yes, copying the manager seems to be a means to keep people honest in the workplace, although I find that it breeds passive aggressiveness.
- joezydeco 8y ago
  Like others in the thread have said, maybe it's something that can be discussed with the manager and he can be blind-copied so that he has a record if something like that happens in the future. As the saying goes, you can change your organization or you can change your organization.
- iamNumber4 8y ago
  If you’re using tasking/ project management system just create the task with your ideas moving forward, keep track of your task numbers. Whenever the a-hole try’s to steal it, and he makes a task, make sure to update his task as a duplicate of your task. My other suggestion is keep things close to your vest. If you have the power to implement changes just start doing it. If you don’t, start making branches and developing proof of concepts. Start showing your manager before including the a-hole in the ideas. So that if he try’s to steal it, then your manager has already seen it from you. Also if he’s doing it to you, your not alone he’s doing it to others too. Whatever you decide to do, if you can get a trusted coworker to also do it. Then there is a pattern of behavior that can’t be ignored. My other suggestion is, get your resume in order, start interviewing. Forget the a-holes name the instance you walk out the door.
starapetarda 8y ago
I wish I was doing that. At previous jobs it didn't happen so I was just using the lead as a sounding board for my ideas. We only talked and he turned me down. Also, it doesn't seem right that I cannot freely discuss ideas with him and I must document them first.
mindcrime 8y ago
copied the manager on the initial proposal to your lead That was going to be my original suggestion as well, and I think it might work (for some value of "work"). But honestly, if you're working with somebody / in a situation where you have to resort to this kind of stuff, it's probably better to just go work somewhere else.

arayh 8y ago

Yes, copying the manager seems to be a means to keep people honest in the workplace, although I find that it breeds passive aggressiveness.

joezydeco 8y ago
Like others in the thread have said, maybe it's something that can be discussed with the manager and he can be blind-copied so that he has a record if something like that happens in the future. As the saying goes, you can change your organization or you can change your organization.
iamNumber4 8y ago
If you’re using tasking/ project management system just create the task with your ideas moving forward, keep track of your task numbers. Whenever the a-hole try’s to steal it, and he makes a task, make sure to update his task as a duplicate of your task. My other suggestion is keep things close to your vest. If you have the power to implement changes just start doing it. If you don’t, start making branches and developing proof of concepts. Start showing your manager before including the a-hole in the ideas. So that if he try’s to steal it, then your manager has already seen it from you. Also if he’s doing it to you, your not alone he’s doing it to others too. Whatever you decide to do, if you can get a trusted coworker to also do it. Then there is a pattern of behavior that can’t be ignored. My other suggestion is, get your resume in order, start interviewing. Forget the a-holes name the instance you walk out the door.

starapetarda 8y ago

I wish I was doing that. At previous jobs it didn't happen so I was just using the lead as a sounding board for my ideas. We only talked and he turned me down. Also, it doesn't seem right that I cannot freely discuss ideas with him and I must document them first.

mindcrime 8y ago

copied the manager on the initial proposal to your lead That was going to be my original suggestion as well, and I think it might work (for some value of "work"). But honestly, if you're working with somebody / in a situation where you have to resort to this kind of stuff, it's probably better to just go work somewhere else.