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I find both tmux and Gnu Screen difficult to config (haven't taken the time to learn) but I love the concept of them so I use Byobu (http://byobu.co/ http://byo

I find both tmux and Gnu Screen difficult to config (haven't taken the time to learn) but I love the concept of them so I use Byobu (http://byobu.co/ http://byobu.co/) on top of tmux/screen to set common configuration for you. Byobu really lowers the amount of config and barrier to entry because Byobu uses common hotkeys. For example F2 for new window.

marcosdumay 8y ago
I never saw the need to configure tmux. I have tried to configure bash for better use it (including launching it automatically) but then gave up due to not enough gain. But I never saw a need to configure tmux itself. I can't say the same about screen. At a minimum, there's an inherent incompatibility between it and emacs.
- CamTin 8y ago
  Here's my entire .screenrc: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Control-^ (usually Control-Shift-6) is traditionally the only key chord not used by emacs escape ^^^^ ## disable all the 1970s era "flow control" operations so I can actually use emacs defflow off -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The first line sets the prefix key to C-M-6 which is not used by emacs. The second turns off the "ctl-f" flow control stuff so emacs gets that chord. I then use emacs itself for all "window" management and terminal multiplexing.
- barrkel 8y ago
  Emacs works perfectly well for me inside screen, but not inside tmux. In tmux, many of the extended keys aren't quite right. I run urxvt. I also have custom fixes for rxvt that I've built up over the years, both a custom terminfo file, and fixes for emacs' terminal mapping. I'm willing to bet your "inherent incompatibility" is a terminfo or similar terminal code interpretation problem.
  - arminiusreturns 8y ago
    I also run screen emacs and urxvt. For what it's worth I choose screen over tmux mostly because I've worked fairly hard at keeping most of my stack gpl.
- kurtisc 8y ago
  It seems to me that people tend towards wanting to configure programs like these before they really grok them. Vim is another: I don't think it needs 100 plugins to fulfil its purpose.
JepZ 8y ago
Sounds a bit like a children of screen and midnight commander ;-)
dvdgsng 8y ago
Thumbs up for Byobu - a great wrapper that makes using screen or tmux less clunky for me. The default config & hotkeys are intuitive, never had the need to alter them.

marcosdumay 8y ago

I never saw the need to configure tmux. I have tried to configure bash for better use it (including launching it automatically) but then gave up due to not enough gain. But I never saw a need to configure tmux itself. I can't say the same about screen. At a minimum, there's an inherent incompatibility between it and emacs.

CamTin 8y ago
Here's my entire .screenrc: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Control-^ (usually Control-Shift-6) is traditionally the only key chord not used by emacs escape ^^^^ ## disable all the 1970s era "flow control" operations so I can actually use emacs defflow off -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The first line sets the prefix key to C-M-6 which is not used by emacs. The second turns off the "ctl-f" flow control stuff so emacs gets that chord. I then use emacs itself for all "window" management and terminal multiplexing.
barrkel 8y ago
Emacs works perfectly well for me inside screen, but not inside tmux. In tmux, many of the extended keys aren't quite right. I run urxvt. I also have custom fixes for rxvt that I've built up over the years, both a custom terminfo file, and fixes for emacs' terminal mapping. I'm willing to bet your "inherent incompatibility" is a terminfo or similar terminal code interpretation problem.
- arminiusreturns 8y ago
  I also run screen emacs and urxvt. For what it's worth I choose screen over tmux mostly because I've worked fairly hard at keeping most of my stack gpl.
kurtisc 8y ago
It seems to me that people tend towards wanting to configure programs like these before they really grok them. Vim is another: I don't think it needs 100 plugins to fulfil its purpose.

JepZ 8y ago

Sounds a bit like a children of screen and midnight commander ;-)

dvdgsng 8y ago

Thumbs up for Byobu - a great wrapper that makes using screen or tmux less clunky for me. The default config & hotkeys are intuitive, never had the need to alter them.