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> It is EA after all, a company I don't have a lot of faith in. Why are you playing their games then?

matwood 8y ago
Exactly. After the crap they pulled with NBA2k18 [1], I refuse to buy another ~EA~ 2K game. Apparently they made it ever so slightly better this year, but that's not enough. [1] Up through 2k17 (that was on the edge though) you could make your custom player good just by playing the game. It might take some time, but it could be done. With 2k18, you needed to buy the game for $60 and then spend ~$100 to have anything near a playable character. EDIT Whoops, my micro transaction hate got ahead of my coffee drinking :) My point still stands though. If you don't like the way a company is doing something, don't buy their product.
- Totoradio 8y ago
  NBA 2k is not an EA game
- blueagle7 8y ago
  NBA 2K18 isn't made by EA. It's made my 2K Sports. EA's NBA game is NBA Live.
Insanity 8y ago
It was a free beta weekend, and it seemed like an interesting thing to try. Now, it's not that DICE is per se a bad developer, but the deadlines pushed on by EA give rise to lots of bugs on release.(But, I've not played an EA/DICE game since BF3 so I could be wrong there, things might've changed.) The games are usually playable some time after release. And things like this: https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-the-most-hated-1820391000 https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-... don't exactly make me warm up to actually buying an EA game.
- chupasaurus 8y ago
  The first year of BF4 after release was pretty much a very long open beta.
  - Flow 8y ago
    And another thing I hate about the yearly releases of CoD and BF: The previous versions more or less die when the new ones are released. As someone who play games on macOS, the delay before the Mac/Linux versions are released makes it so when you get to play the games, most of your friends play the next version or something else. I've stopped buying games like CoD and BF because of this. It seems only Blizzard and Valve understand they can keep people playing the same games for decades with little investment.
    - chupasaurus 8y ago
      Name a single Blizzard game with official support of Linux. They are also had banned accounts for playing their games through Wine, but they've stopped 5 or so years ago.
      - Flow 8y ago
        I don't think there are any native Linux games from Blizzard. I mentioned Linux in the "Mac/Linux" because Linux too suffers from the sometimes more than a year late releases of these games.
  - dawnerd 8y ago
    BF3 was pretty painful too if I remember correctly. Horrible hitboxes and lag.
    - Insanity 8y ago
      The horrible hitboxes are one of the main issues I remember with bf3 as well. It was bad enough to make me quit the game for some months.
pjc50 8y ago
The world is full of great-to-acceptable products (especially media) with no exact substitutes produced by shitty companies.
curiousgal 8y ago
Exactly. People like to complain about how awful a company is and yet proceed to keep them in business.
xg15 8y ago
Arguments like this is what I find entertaining about (pure) free-market advocates. They argue that regulation is not needed because, if there is a problem, consumers would vote with their wallets to remove it - and when the consumers inexplicably fail to do so, the advocates get mad and blame the consumers instead of adjusting their theory.
- swebs 8y ago
  Who specifically? You're just building a strawman to attack, while framing it as us-vs-them. Comments like these lower the quality of discussion by removing nuance and pushing people into tribalism.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    I don't think it counts as a "strawman" if it's reflecting the way reality actually is, and shows a huge hole in their philosophy.
  - xg15 8y ago
    How would a more nuanced counter-argument look?
- smhost 8y ago
  It's also pretty funny that the thing that is finally shifting the typical reddit/youtube hardcore gamer-atheist demographic away from their ancap ideology is lootcrates.
  - ionised 8y ago
    What's atheism got to do with any of this?
    - smhost 8y ago
      i don't know, you'll have to ask them.
    - Shorel 8y ago
chottocharaii 8y ago
Because EA has most of the marketshare, and can afford to make big budget titles. If a more regulated producer had similar marketshare, I could play the big budget titles of that regulated corporation.
jsight 8y ago
Because they are fun? I mean, I hate a lot of things that EA does, but I still enjoy BF1 and Madden.

Exactly. After the crap they pulled with NBA2k18 [1], I refuse to buy another ~EA~ 2K game. Apparently they made it ever so slightly better this year, but that's not enough. [1] Up through 2k17 (that was on the edge though) you could make your custom player good just by playing the game. It might take some time, but it could be done. With 2k18, you needed to buy the game for $60 and then spend ~$100 to have anything near a playable character. EDIT Whoops, my micro transaction hate got ahead of my coffee drinking :) My point still stands though. If you don't like the way a company is doing something, don't buy their product.

Totoradio 8y ago
NBA 2k is not an EA game
blueagle7 8y ago
NBA 2K18 isn't made by EA. It's made my 2K Sports. EA's NBA game is NBA Live.

Insanity 8y ago

It was a free beta weekend, and it seemed like an interesting thing to try. Now, it's not that DICE is per se a bad developer, but the deadlines pushed on by EA give rise to lots of bugs on release.(But, I've not played an EA/DICE game since BF3 so I could be wrong there, things might've changed.) The games are usually playable some time after release. And things like this: https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-the-most-hated-1820391000 https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-... don't exactly make me warm up to actually buying an EA game.

chupasaurus 8y ago
The first year of BF4 after release was pretty much a very long open beta.
- Flow 8y ago
  And another thing I hate about the yearly releases of CoD and BF: The previous versions more or less die when the new ones are released. As someone who play games on macOS, the delay before the Mac/Linux versions are released makes it so when you get to play the games, most of your friends play the next version or something else. I've stopped buying games like CoD and BF because of this. It seems only Blizzard and Valve understand they can keep people playing the same games for decades with little investment.
  - chupasaurus 8y ago
    Name a single Blizzard game with official support of Linux. They are also had banned accounts for playing their games through Wine, but they've stopped 5 or so years ago.
    - Flow 8y ago
      I don't think there are any native Linux games from Blizzard. I mentioned Linux in the "Mac/Linux" because Linux too suffers from the sometimes more than a year late releases of these games.
- dawnerd 8y ago
  BF3 was pretty painful too if I remember correctly. Horrible hitboxes and lag.
  - Insanity 8y ago
    The horrible hitboxes are one of the main issues I remember with bf3 as well. It was bad enough to make me quit the game for some months.

pjc50 8y ago

The world is full of great-to-acceptable products (especially media) with no exact substitutes produced by shitty companies.

curiousgal 8y ago

Exactly. People like to complain about how awful a company is and yet proceed to keep them in business.

xg15 8y ago

Arguments like this is what I find entertaining about (pure) free-market advocates. They argue that regulation is not needed because, if there is a problem, consumers would vote with their wallets to remove it - and when the consumers inexplicably fail to do so, the advocates get mad and blame the consumers instead of adjusting their theory.

swebs 8y ago
Who specifically? You're just building a strawman to attack, while framing it as us-vs-them. Comments like these lower the quality of discussion by removing nuance and pushing people into tribalism.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  I don't think it counts as a "strawman" if it's reflecting the way reality actually is, and shows a huge hole in their philosophy.
- xg15 8y ago
  How would a more nuanced counter-argument look?
smhost 8y ago
It's also pretty funny that the thing that is finally shifting the typical reddit/youtube hardcore gamer-atheist demographic away from their ancap ideology is lootcrates.
- ionised 8y ago
  What's atheism got to do with any of this?
  - smhost 8y ago
    i don't know, you'll have to ask them.
  - Shorel 8y ago

chottocharaii 8y ago

Because EA has most of the marketshare, and can afford to make big budget titles. If a more regulated producer had similar marketshare, I could play the big budget titles of that regulated corporation.

jsight 8y ago

Because they are fun? I mean, I hate a lot of things that EA does, but I still enjoy BF1 and Madden.