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> NSA monitors all traffic Source for this claim? I don't doubt they monitor what they can - but the sheer volume of internet traffic makes it unlikely that th

> NSA monitors all traffic Source for this claim? I don't doubt they monitor what they can - but the sheer volume of internet traffic makes it unlikely that they are able to monitor everything and instead must target specific things to monitor. They have a lot of money and a lot of smart people, but they don't have wizard magic.

polshaw 8y ago
The UK was doing a full take of every packet in 2013, the US are definitely able to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora >The Guardian claims that no distinction is made in the gathering of data between public citizens and targeted suspects.
- stordoff 8y ago
  After going through volume reduction, so maybe not _strictly_ every packet: > The processing centres apply a series of sophisticated computer programmes in order to filter the material through what is known as MVR – massive volume reduction. The first filter immediately rejects high-volume, low-value traffic, such as peer-to-peer downloads, which reduces the volume by about 30%. They have access, but it isn't necessarily analysed or kept.
sdf43543t345 8y ago
Are you living in 2012? Since 2013 and the snowden revelations, the allegation that IC does at least 30 days full take 100% of internet data traffic (and much longer for encrypted or interesting traffic) is an established fact. Why do you think https penetration is so high today? In 2018, and that big giant data center in Utah, its likely much greater than 30 days. It truly is wizard magic.
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agumonkey 8y ago
Some ex NSA tech lead (Bill Binney-something, who quit because of absurd spying) they were drowning in data and were mostly interested into listening more (an easy reason to get more budget iirc). Now they can't inspect everything close, but they do grab the data.

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> NSA monitors all traffic Source for this claim? I don't doubt they monitor what they can - but the sheer volume of internet traffic makes it unlikely that th

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polshaw 8y ago
The UK was doing a full take of every packet in 2013, the US are definitely able to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora >The Guardian claims that no distinction is made in the gathering of data between public citizens and targeted suspects.
- stordoff 8y ago
  After going through volume reduction, so maybe not _strictly_ every packet: > The processing centres apply a series of sophisticated computer programmes in order to filter the material through what is known as MVR – massive volume reduction. The first filter immediately rejects high-volume, low-value traffic, such as peer-to-peer downloads, which reduces the volume by about 30%. They have access, but it isn't necessarily analysed or kept.
sdf43543t345 8y ago
Are you living in 2012? Since 2013 and the snowden revelations, the allegation that IC does at least 30 days full take 100% of internet data traffic (and much longer for encrypted or interesting traffic) is an established fact. Why do you think https penetration is so high today? In 2018, and that big giant data center in Utah, its likely much greater than 30 days. It truly is wizard magic.
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agumonkey 8y ago
Some ex NSA tech lead (Bill Binney-something, who quit because of absurd spying) they were drowning in data and were mostly interested into listening more (an easy reason to get more budget iirc). Now they can't inspect everything close, but they do grab the data.