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I can think of nothing more insufferable than being surrounded by wealthy people who are business-driven. Why does it have to be a “founders” hike? Why can’t p

I can think of nothing more insufferable than being surrounded by wealthy people who are business-driven. Why does it have to be a “founders” hike? Why can’t people just fucking get together and hike?

rgrieselhuber 8y ago
I would be very surprised if anyone who would join a Founders Hike is wealthy as a founder, especially if they are suffering from loneliness.
- ada1981 8y ago
  You’d be surprised how many of the billion dollar company founders I coach come in the door with deep loneliness.
  - claydavisss 8y ago
    You're right, we would be. Well, I don't doubt that some rich people are very lonely....I doubt you actually come into contact with them. Feel like you're just a wannabe Bill Campbell. I went to your site - you sell Ultimate T-shirts.
    - dang 8y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are (or feel) about an underlying point. Please don't be a jerk on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ada1981 8y ago
      Lol. This was the first domain I bought back in 2001 when I was running an ultimate frisbee clothing brand in college. Those were the original designs and are there for friends / fans from college and as a nod to my first online business. I was also the founding cohost of Summit.co I created The Love Game (PlayTheLoveGame.com) AnthonyDavidAdams.com has a video of me coaching the founder of Ben & Jerries, but most of my work is of course confidential. What I find interesting is that a free offering to help someone that is feeling lonely is met with such vitriol and projection.
claydavisss 8y ago
Probably just a few wannabes. In any case yes, a great way to not have a good time
- ada1981 8y ago
  Be sure to not email me for an invite! But I encourage you to do things that you enjoy doing.
matwood 8y ago
You said it harsher than I would have, but I go hiking to be alone. 6-8 hours with nothing but some music and your thoughts is amazing to help clear the mind and get re-centered. Sadly, I no longer live near good mountain hiking, so I use surfing as that time to re-center.
ada1981 8y ago
Of course, I also go on hikes and you are welcome to do so. But I’ve found that there are certain problems and issues that come up for founders that non-founders can’t really support.
dang 8y ago
Everyone knows almost all startups fail, and one group existing doesn't preclude others. More importantly, please don't be rude on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dclowd9901 8y ago
  Who’s being rude? I’m asking a valid question. Being a founder doesn’t preclude someone from liking to hike and this seems exclusive for exclusives’ sake.
  - ada1981 8y ago
    Have you ever gone to an EO meeting? Or another event for folks who are in a similar industry or job? It’s founders because it allows for entrepreneurs to connect around challenges specific to their lives. I’m confused as to why this bothers you — no one is saying you can’t go on a hike or start your own group. Nor does it mean non-founders can’t like to hike. I’m simply offering a group that I run that is already running as an option for folks here - many of which are founders.

rgrieselhuber 8y ago

I would be very surprised if anyone who would join a Founders Hike is wealthy as a founder, especially if they are suffering from loneliness.

ada1981 8y ago
You’d be surprised how many of the billion dollar company founders I coach come in the door with deep loneliness.
- claydavisss 8y ago
  You're right, we would be. Well, I don't doubt that some rich people are very lonely....I doubt you actually come into contact with them. Feel like you're just a wannabe Bill Campbell. I went to your site - you sell Ultimate T-shirts.
  - dang 8y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are (or feel) about an underlying point. Please don't be a jerk on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ada1981 8y ago
    Lol. This was the first domain I bought back in 2001 when I was running an ultimate frisbee clothing brand in college. Those were the original designs and are there for friends / fans from college and as a nod to my first online business. I was also the founding cohost of Summit.co I created The Love Game (PlayTheLoveGame.com) AnthonyDavidAdams.com has a video of me coaching the founder of Ben & Jerries, but most of my work is of course confidential. What I find interesting is that a free offering to help someone that is feeling lonely is met with such vitriol and projection.

claydavisss 8y ago

Probably just a few wannabes. In any case yes, a great way to not have a good time

ada1981 8y ago
Be sure to not email me for an invite! But I encourage you to do things that you enjoy doing.

matwood 8y ago

You said it harsher than I would have, but I go hiking to be alone. 6-8 hours with nothing but some music and your thoughts is amazing to help clear the mind and get re-centered. Sadly, I no longer live near good mountain hiking, so I use surfing as that time to re-center.

ada1981 8y ago

Of course, I also go on hikes and you are welcome to do so. But I’ve found that there are certain problems and issues that come up for founders that non-founders can’t really support.

dang 8y ago

Everyone knows almost all startups fail, and one group existing doesn't preclude others. More importantly, please don't be rude on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dclowd9901 8y ago
Who’s being rude? I’m asking a valid question. Being a founder doesn’t preclude someone from liking to hike and this seems exclusive for exclusives’ sake.
- ada1981 8y ago
  Have you ever gone to an EO meeting? Or another event for folks who are in a similar industry or job? It’s founders because it allows for entrepreneurs to connect around challenges specific to their lives. I’m confused as to why this bothers you — no one is saying you can’t go on a hike or start your own group. Nor does it mean non-founders can’t like to hike. I’m simply offering a group that I run that is already running as an option for folks here - many of which are founders.