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They've patched the thing in weird ways without contributing anything back (upstream as it were). I've had this problem with both Debian and Ubuntu. Sometimes
by cperciva 8y ago
They've patched the thing in weird ways without contributing anything back (upstream as it were).
I've had this problem with both Debian and Ubuntu. Sometimes the patches they apply are good, sometimes bad; but I wish they at least had a social norm of "contact the upstream project and offer them the patches". It's annoying when the first I hear about a patch is when a user contacts me to complain that something is broken.
- e12e 8y agoFor Debian - would you say that's mostly package owner dependent, or more tied to the policy of "bug-fix without api change only" in stable? Or just overall poor culture of communicating with upstream - when upstream != maintainer of Debian package?
- cperciva 8y agoNone of the cases I've seen have been related to the policy of avoiding API changes in stable. Most of them seem to be instances of "user files a bug with Debian; package maintainer adds a patch to address user's complaint but doesn't relay the bug report or the patch upstream".