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Can we just stick to the Daylight time year round? I am 100% for getting rid of this dumb system.
by baldfat 8y ago
Can we just stick to the Daylight time year round?
I am 100% for getting rid of this dumb system.
- keymone 8y agoalso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
- Avamander 8y agoalso Single time zone earth please
- dtech 8y agoWhat does UTC lack for you to fulfill that role?
- Avamander 8y agoI said it half-jokingly, trying to continue the train of thought of OP. The current system is quite fine.
- ifdefdebug 8y agoI suspect most supporters of that idea live near Greenwich latitude but I might be wrong...
- Chinjut 8y agoLongitude, you presumably mean.
- ifdefdebug 8y agoexactly, sorry.
- bhaak 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
- DoctorPenguin 8y agoI still remember my "Swatch The Beep" watch =)
- lucb1e 8y agoSwatch Internet Time feels to me like a prime example of adding another standard for no reason whatsoever, other than to attach a brand to a timezone for promotion of course. I don't know why people keep bringing it up.
- Karunamon 8y agoIt is a pretty nifty concept - having time in a day measured as divisions of 1000 (a "beat", a minute and some seconds) is aesthetically more pleasing and probably easier to deal with rather than divisions of 60, 24, and 12. Kinda like how SI units are easier to reason about than imperal ones.
- bhaak 8y agoAt a time when people were still wearing watches, you could have an alternative time standard, on your wrist, in actual hardware. Nowadays, you could have that easily as an app on your smart watch, but of course, there are far fewer people wearing smart watches. Also don't forget the egalitarian approach of using a time format that's equally foreign to everybody.
- M_Bakhtiari 8y agoalso Guillotine all who resists new scheme
- grandmczeb 8y agohttps://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish
- chrisper 8y agoDo you like the idea of having to remember that stores in japan open at 23:00 UTC, somwehere else at 3:00 UTC etc.?
- thezoq2 8y agoThat sounds like a way less annoying issue than trying to schedule things across borders
- grandmczeb 8y agoUnless you’re proposing everyone on earth work during the same hours, you’re still going to have to know the standard working hours in the region they’re in. Time zones are basically a standard version of that. Not to mention, a single solar day makes dealing with weekends/holidays way harder.
- lozf 8y agoNo, it just shifts the problem to needing to know which are the working hours at each location you want to interact with. Timezones and Daylight Saving are completely different issues that appear related. Both have flaws, but at least local timezones are a sensible abstraction for general societal behaviour in a given location. If you want a fixed standard time, we already have UTC, - get used to it and the offset of the _local_ times you need to know. https://qntm.org/abolish https://qntm.org/abolish
- TallGuyShort 8y agoI bet the Japanese would remember that pretty quick. If I visit Japan, I don't know customs and practices of local business and have to look things up or go with a local anyway. I certainly don't like people forgetting what timezone I'm in and scheduling important meetings for 6pm on the Friday before a long weekend, or having to stop and look stuff up because I can't remember whether or not I'm in sync with the next state of over during this time of year. The fact is time is different everywhere but we hide that in the way we represent it, making it harder to deal with it.
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- matt4077 8y agoThat’s a stupid idea. Not only will all references to times in movies etc stop making sense. It will not even help to solve any of the perceived problems, like scheduling calls. You might be able to specify the time without a time zone, but you still have to look up if that time is within their daytime. Literally the only people who would profit are those tasked with maintaining time-related functions in operating systems... who would lose their jobs.
- Chinjut 8y agoAll references and depicted cultural practices in movies, novels, plays, etc, become dated over time anyway. The world keeps changing.
- shpx 8y agoalso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units but only when the Gravitational constant is measured with more precision.
- jaakl 8y agoGlobally this would be too much, but why not in EU? It is +1 for some, and -1 for others, not that much. Just stretch to CET, just like Spain already does.
- ginko 8y agoThat's what's probably going to happen, sadly: "The European commission will recommend that EU member states abandon the practice of changing the clocks in spring and autumn in favour of staying on summer time throughout the year."
- colordrops 8y agoWhy is it sad?
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- DoctorPenguin 8y agoBecause it is not the "natural" time but the artificial one that is chosen.
- foepys 8y agoHumans already don't plan their day strictly around sunlight. Otherwise we wouldn't go to bed at 10pm and get up at 6am (or even later) but rather go to bed at 8pm and get up at 4am.
- zeveb 8y ago> Humans already don't plan their day strictly around sunlight. For maximum health & energy efficiency, though, we probably ought to (just like we probably ought to build our houses so that air conditioning is optional & heating is efficient).
- seanalltogether 8y agoI would argue they still plan according to the sun. Why have most westerner cultures slowly adapted to a 9 - 5 schedule when older generations used to work 8 - 4? Daylight savings slowly convinced society to start the work day 1 hour later.
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- mrweasel 8y agoRussia tried switching to summer time permanently, it didn't work. If you need to pick, you need to go for winter time all year round. Otherwise you get really dark winters in Northern Europe, but people forget that, because they want sunlit evenings in the summer time.
- konart 8y agoCan confirm - permament summer time was an awful idea. Both from personal point of view and some economical conclusions. Rigth now (since 2014) we have only "winter" time for all regions except for a few (like Altai for example)
- akvadrako 8y agoThis doesn't make any sense. I'm in semi-northern Europe and we get like 6-hours of light at the lowest point. How does it make the winter darker if that light is from 10-16 rather than 9-15 ? Better to have the light even later in winter, instead of while inside during work, like 14-20.
- wott 8y agoNone of the arguments against DST make sense (like the cow milking one, Jesus...). I heard that one too on the radio in France, I almost fell from my chair. I lived many years in Lapland, and nobody cared about the so-called 'problems' of DST: what does it matter when you have 24 hours of night or 24 hours of day, and the times of sunrise and sunset changes super fast and super strongly in between? It only matters for South- and Central-Europe countries. ----------- The question itself was horrible. It was just 2-sentence long but yet full of EU propaganda. I mean, quite a performance, I had never seen anything before like that. I was so dishonest and wrong on so many levels. Evidence suggests that common EU rules in this area are very important to ensure the proper functioning of the internal market. In order to ensure such common rules also for the future, which of the following alternatives would you favour: * Keeping the current EU arrangements switching between summer and wintertime for all EU Member States * Abolishing the switching for all EU Member States? First, why the fuck should EU interfere with the States chosen time? "Evidence suggests"... uh, what? Any sentence starting this way is probably bullshit. Why the heck is such a minor detail point so important for the "proper functioning"? It has been functioning without troubles for decades. Why on Earth should the "internal market" be the SINGLE reason stated for imposing such changes? So, what's next : "In order to ensure such common rules also for the future". Er... what? We already jumped to the point where we agreed on everything said before. No we didn't! Then the only choices are both "for all EU Member states". There is no "why should I tell the XXians how they should handle their time, let them use what they fancy, it is such a minor detail". ------------ Every single sentence, every single word in this question was politically loaded, yet falsely presented as taken for granted. EU propaganda in a nutshell, always presented as the only, obvious, natural, reasonable, choice.
- Asooka 8y agoPlease no. Winters will be absolutely miserable for one. For another, my internal clock is most comfortable with waking up at 9AM. It doesn't understand numbers and clocks, so in the summer that means 10AM. Going to work at 10 is ok, but 11 starts getting a bit uncomfortable, though luckily I've so far picked jobs that let me do that. But the discrepancy between the clock showing nearly noon and my internal clock believing it's morning does cause me a bit of anxiety. You can always do whatever you want after dark, but I can't sleep when I'm driving to work.