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To put it bluntly, I don't like competing with the entire rest of the world for housing in my city, and I'm pretty sure most other people don't either.
by danharaj 8y ago
To put it bluntly, I don't like competing with the entire rest of the world for housing in my city, and I'm pretty sure most other people don't either.
- lifeisstillgood 8y agoThis is the heart of the matter. it is also the heart of globalisation and the very heart of the internet - we should be very aware of the massive social dislocation caused by the globalisation of the food industry in 1870s following the first wave of refrigeration (ice in atlantic ships)
- piker 8y ago> it is also the heart of globalisation and the very heart of the internet Except that real estate is intrinsically a geographic issue. Manufacturing and distribution aren't.
- cwyers 8y agoThey used to be.
- eerwrq 8y agoOk. So does that change the argument in any way? Or are you just being pedantic. [edit: yeah i'm being dumb. i felt the discussion was being derailed, but thats no reason to yell at strangers on the internet.]
- danharaj 8y agoDistribution only exists because geography is a thing.
- eerwrq 8y agoGlobalization has nothing to do with this. The problem is that AirBnB reduces an already-tight housing supply by turning homes into hotels. This would be an problem regardless of whether the tourists were international or domestic.
- lifeisstillgood 8y agoKinda ... globalisation is just a term for some change in the equilibrium in neighbouring markets that allow participants in one to take part in both. Could be transport costs, could be information changes. I was thinking tourists == international, but the analysis and the name still is fair i think Plus to be fair, America is a continent that thinks it's a country so ideas of international tourism are flexible ...
- matwood 8y ago> my city Your city? Interesting way to frame it. Maybe you were born where you currently live or maybe you moved there last year. Either way it doesn't really matter. Why do you feel the need to keep other people out of the city you currently live? The reasons that you live where you live are the same reasons other people want to live and visit. Why deny someone that ability to move or visit only because you got there somewhat earlier?
- guhidalg 8y agoBecause of taxes. OP likely has been paying taxes all his life, his parents likely paying taxes all their life, and so on... in a way, the city belongs more to the OP than not.
- matwood 8y agoYou don't think tourists pay a ton in taxes? I live in one of these cities and there are a ton of taxes that are geared towards tourists. In many way locals benefit with lower taxes because of all of the tourist income.
- guhidalg 8y agoWe’d have to look at numbers to argue this objectively, but I highly doubt that a tourist spending 1-2 weeks a year in a city will yield more revenue to the local government than a resident living there 365 days a year.
- jrm415 8y agoThat's a strange comparison to make. I highly doubt that the resident yields more revenue over that 1-2 week period than the tourist, or that the resident yields more revenue over a year than a year's worth of tourists.
- busterarm 8y agoResidents get preferential price treatment to visitors because they provide societal stability. It's the same reason why state residents get preferential tuition pricing to out of state residents. You give discounted state tuition because you don't want a state full of low-skilled dummies. You give residents an edge over tourists so you don't have a shortage of people to put out fires, cook food and remove garbage. It's not hard.
- mullingitover 8y agoIf you're taking ownership of the city, you also kinda have to take responsibility for the city's mismanagement of housing supply.