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Coffee and Your Health

19 points by todd8 8y ago

sdegutis 8y ago
I wonder if the inverse correlation between type 2 diabetes and coffee is because coffee drinkers generally consume fewer sweets and have less of a sweet tooth?
- hprotagonist 8y ago
  I regret to inform you from personal experience that this is not the case.
- coldtea 8y ago
  Isn't coffee and doughnuts a very classic combo?
  - sshine 8y ago
    Perhaps. Another one is coffee and cigarettes.
    - rhinoceraptor 8y ago
      That could be that nicotine causes you to metabolize caffeine quicker.
      - xiphias 8y ago
        It's not nicotine but polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons of tobacco that induce the CYP1A2 enzyme (which is the most important enzyme for caffeine metabilization).
- nacs 8y ago
  > coffee drinkers generally consume fewer sweets and have less of a sweet tooth Have you looked at the sugar content in a typical Starbucks drink? A lot of those contain 15 to 45 grams of sugar per cup. Yes there are some people who make French press coffee and drink it with 0 sugar / cream but I'd say a lot of casual coffee drinkers aren't that health minded. https://news.starbucks.com/uploads/documents/nutrition.pdf https://news.starbucks.com/uploads/documents/nutrition.pdf
  - ams6110 8y ago
    I drink quite a bit of coffee, I use an aeropress and will sometimes add a little heavy cream but generally drink it without adding anything. I never add sugar.
rokhayakebe 8y ago
I believe the coffee is prepared matters too.
velzevur 8y ago
Correlation does not imply causation...
- coldtea 8y ago
  It very much implies it. It just doesn't guarantee it. Imply (verb): indicate the truth or existence of (something) by suggestion rather than explicit reference.
  - cstrahan 8y ago
    See "material implication" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional), which is what most people here will likely mean when they say "implies": > The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→". The material conditional is used to form statements of the form p → q (termed a conditional statement) which is read as "if p then q". Unlike the English construction "if... then...", the material conditional statement p → q does not specify a causal relationship between p and q. It is merely to be understood to mean "if p is true, then q is also true" such that the statement p → q is false only when p is true and q is false.[1] The material conditional only states that q is true when (but not necessarily only when) p is true, and makes no claim that p causes q.
- noanabeshima 8y ago
  https://www.gwern.net/Causality https://www.gwern.net/Causality
jbob2000 8y ago
I was able to finish reading the article before the page finished loading. To WebMD: Fix your ad networks and write better articles.
- Seirdy 8y ago
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annamargot 8y ago
Autophagy is induced by coffee. Just learned that today! “Coffee triggers 2 phenomena that are also induced by nutrient depletion, namely a reduction of protein acetylation coupled to an increase in autophagy. We speculate that polyphenols contained in coffee promote health by stimulating autophagy.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24769862/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24769862/ Also watched this video from Found My Fitness[1] recommended in another HN post today [2]. It’s an interview with Dr Guido Kroemer. Very informative and research-based info about autophagy, mentions coffee as well as fasting. [1] https://youtu.be/Gm626MgpveI https://youtu.be/Gm626MgpveI [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17831003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17831003

19 points by todd8 8y ago

I wonder if the inverse correlation between type 2 diabetes and coffee is because coffee drinkers generally consume fewer sweets and have less of a sweet tooth?

hprotagonist 8y ago
I regret to inform you from personal experience that this is not the case.
coldtea 8y ago
Isn't coffee and doughnuts a very classic combo?
- sshine 8y ago
  Perhaps. Another one is coffee and cigarettes.
  - rhinoceraptor 8y ago
    That could be that nicotine causes you to metabolize caffeine quicker.
    - xiphias 8y ago
      It's not nicotine but polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons of tobacco that induce the CYP1A2 enzyme (which is the most important enzyme for caffeine metabilization).
nacs 8y ago
> coffee drinkers generally consume fewer sweets and have less of a sweet tooth Have you looked at the sugar content in a typical Starbucks drink? A lot of those contain 15 to 45 grams of sugar per cup. Yes there are some people who make French press coffee and drink it with 0 sugar / cream but I'd say a lot of casual coffee drinkers aren't that health minded. https://news.starbucks.com/uploads/documents/nutrition.pdf https://news.starbucks.com/uploads/documents/nutrition.pdf
- ams6110 8y ago
  I drink quite a bit of coffee, I use an aeropress and will sometimes add a little heavy cream but generally drink it without adding anything. I never add sugar.

rokhayakebe 8y ago

I believe the coffee is prepared matters too.

velzevur 8y ago

Correlation does not imply causation...

coldtea 8y ago
It very much implies it. It just doesn't guarantee it. Imply (verb): indicate the truth or existence of (something) by suggestion rather than explicit reference.
- cstrahan 8y ago
  See "material implication" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional), which is what most people here will likely mean when they say "implies": > The material conditional (also known as material implication, material consequence, or simply implication, implies, or conditional) is a logical connective (or a binary operator) that is often symbolized by a forward arrow "→". The material conditional is used to form statements of the form p → q (termed a conditional statement) which is read as "if p then q". Unlike the English construction "if... then...", the material conditional statement p → q does not specify a causal relationship between p and q. It is merely to be understood to mean "if p is true, then q is also true" such that the statement p → q is false only when p is true and q is false.[1] The material conditional only states that q is true when (but not necessarily only when) p is true, and makes no claim that p causes q.
noanabeshima 8y ago
https://www.gwern.net/Causality https://www.gwern.net/Causality

jbob2000 8y ago

I was able to finish reading the article before the page finished loading. To WebMD: Fix your ad networks and write better articles.

Seirdy 8y ago
I suggest installing uBlock Origin and enabling the following filters: www.webmd.com##.global-nav-megamenu www.webmd.com##.main-container-3 www.webmd.com##.main-container-1 www.webmd.com###ContentPane1 www.webmd.com###ContentPane34 www.webmd.com###ContentPane50 www.webmd.com###ContentPane55 www.webmd.com##body > footer www.webmd.com###ContentPane28 www.webmd.com##.archive-tag www.webmd.com##.visually-hidden After that, blocking every resource except images in uMatrix results in a beautiful, HTML-only page featuring text and images for the article only, without headers, CSS, sidebars, and ads.

annamargot 8y ago

Autophagy is induced by coffee. Just learned that today! “Coffee triggers 2 phenomena that are also induced by nutrient depletion, namely a reduction of protein acetylation coupled to an increase in autophagy. We speculate that polyphenols contained in coffee promote health by stimulating autophagy.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24769862/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24769862/ Also watched this video from Found My Fitness[1] recommended in another HN post today [2]. It’s an interview with Dr Guido Kroemer. Very informative and research-based info about autophagy, mentions coffee as well as fasting. [1] https://youtu.be/Gm626MgpveI https://youtu.be/Gm626MgpveI [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17831003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17831003