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I am European and it's 11 here; I'm talking to an European audience. OVH has got a datacenter in Canada with good prices, compared to the rip-off Linode is.

adventured 8y ago
Your point about OVH still falls flat for a US audience, unless saving a few dollars is a critical concern. $20 for 4gb of ram, 4tb of bandwidth and 2 cpus at Linode is a rip-off? I guess if someone were quite lacking in funds and needed the absolute most cut-rate VPS prices they can get, it might be viewed as a rip-off. That's a legitimate issue if so, sure. By all counts Linode in fact provides a tremendous service at a low cost, as with DigitalOcean. I'm guessing that for most people, $3 vs $7 (or a similar ratio) simply doesn't matter very much, especially when you consider laws and latency. To compete fully, Scaleaway and OVH will eventually need multiple US data centers, otherwise the price gap by itself isn't going to be enough and the world's largest economy will remain the domain of DO/Linode/Amazon/etc. Those companies already know they'll have to charge more for service in the US, which is why they don't already have lots of US data centers after all these years, they have no competitive advantage to bring to the table. Again, if you locate in Canada you're opening yourself up to multiple jurisdiction compliance. You're going to have to comply with both Canadian and US laws in that case if you're a US business. The complexity and burden of doing so will only continue to expand. Saving a few dollars by locating with OVH in Canada might be fine if you're just running a test setup and have no intentions of running a real business on it.
- eahman11 8y ago
  I'm talking about lowly priced servers for development, test purposes, or hosting small non-critical websites. For bigger budgets there are a thousand options better than Linode. Linode is not competitive at any price range and they only have their name.
ksec 8y ago
>I am European and it's 11 here; I'm talking to an European audience. And next time you should have mentioned it in your first reply. Instead of going in full force trashing other competitors with your new account. There are lots of international audience here, from Asia to US and Australia, where Scaleway doesn't serve. Welcome to HN, lets not make HN the same place as reddit.

adventured 8y ago

Your point about OVH still falls flat for a US audience, unless saving a few dollars is a critical concern. $20 for 4gb of ram, 4tb of bandwidth and 2 cpus at Linode is a rip-off? I guess if someone were quite lacking in funds and needed the absolute most cut-rate VPS prices they can get, it might be viewed as a rip-off. That's a legitimate issue if so, sure. By all counts Linode in fact provides a tremendous service at a low cost, as with DigitalOcean. I'm guessing that for most people, $3 vs $7 (or a similar ratio) simply doesn't matter very much, especially when you consider laws and latency. To compete fully, Scaleaway and OVH will eventually need multiple US data centers, otherwise the price gap by itself isn't going to be enough and the world's largest economy will remain the domain of DO/Linode/Amazon/etc. Those companies already know they'll have to charge more for service in the US, which is why they don't already have lots of US data centers after all these years, they have no competitive advantage to bring to the table. Again, if you locate in Canada you're opening yourself up to multiple jurisdiction compliance. You're going to have to comply with both Canadian and US laws in that case if you're a US business. The complexity and burden of doing so will only continue to expand. Saving a few dollars by locating with OVH in Canada might be fine if you're just running a test setup and have no intentions of running a real business on it.

eahman11 8y ago
I'm talking about lowly priced servers for development, test purposes, or hosting small non-critical websites. For bigger budgets there are a thousand options better than Linode. Linode is not competitive at any price range and they only have their name.

ksec 8y ago

>I am European and it's 11 here; I'm talking to an European audience. And next time you should have mentioned it in your first reply. Instead of going in full force trashing other competitors with your new account. There are lots of international audience here, from Asia to US and Australia, where Scaleway doesn't serve. Welcome to HN, lets not make HN the same place as reddit.