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> People in life are what matters. Money matters too, of course, and it's tempting to dream about having FU riches. But when we live in this culture where we're

> People in life are what matters. Money matters too, of course, and it's tempting to dream about having FU riches. But when we live in this culture where we're all trying to gamble, and institutions are trying to gamble, and the losers get quietly swept under the rug and silenced, all that's left is the impression that everyone is winning except you. And it's ~impossible to come to your senses when you're caught up in that. It's just so dangerous and greedy. I recently became a multi-millionaire (not from crypto) and this is so true. I'm less happy than I was when I rented month to month, didn't own a couch and ate ramen most nights. I actually really miss it- too many obligations and responsibilities to go back now. I wish I enjoyed my 20s more. I thought that I wanted money above all else. Then I got the money and realized I don't really need that. I'm only close to 1 other human in the whole world and sometimes I wonder if she even cares for me anymore since all I do is work to make more money. I was just so wrong about my whole life. Even though I'm young, I feel as though I'm entrenched in this game now with no viable way out.

gms 8y ago
Thank you for your perspective; it's rarely shared.
tsunamifury 8y ago
I strongly recommend taking a few weeks off and traveling someplace random. You'll be able to see how your current money goes so much further almost anywhere else in the world and that you have many more options than you think you do... plus you'll meet new people. Don't worry so much about it, likely you're a bit burned out and feel trapped when you're actually more free than most people.
- newmoney420 8y ago
  I think I've been officially burnt out for ~14 months now (read: even longer than that). In that time we've taken a couple 1 week vacations. When I get back I'm back to my normal self for 3 weeks or so and then I notice the signs again. Is it important to take those weeks consecutively instead of multiple shorter trips? Genuinely curious. I think one source of my woes is the proverbial "golden handcuffs". Yes, I have a lot of money already. But, I'm expected to continue operating as I have been for multiple years to come (and yes, there is a strong financial incentive to perform). Willful failure to perform could bring lawsuits, resignations, bankruptcy, who knows. To my rationale, I already committed to n additional years of start-up-hustle level work (100% growth per year for multiple years). There is a strong financial incentive to complete this. If I willfully fail to perform I risk essentially bankruptcy. I'm aware that I said in my previous post that I don't really need the money. But, at the same time I do? I have a mortgage, wife, (soon) children. I do regret almost all significant life choices I've made to date currently, but now that I'm here it's overly painful to get out (I think?). Sorry for the rant. Lots of pressure. I should probably start writing in a journal instead of posting my thoughts publicly online.
  - shawn 8y ago
    Not at all. Throwaway accounts are for exactly this, and we're a community, so we're here to back you up. When I made a throwaway some years ago, I also made a gmail and put it in the throwaway's profile. I ended up getting a lot of supportive emails that helped me through a rough time. Some of the advice was stuff that can't really be shared publicly too, which was useful. I empathize a lot with the expectation to continue doing your job, and it's worth addressing. Take care of yourself.
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    I burnt out last year just over a year ago. I shut everything down and went and got a full time job. It’s only after a year of not working more than 40hrs a week have I realised how close to the wind I sailed (burnout co-incided with some serious health issues). Now I work 9-5 for a decent wage and have time for my partner, her boy and my hobbies (Chess and cycling). We are fortunate, we work in an in demand industry, from deciding I just wanted to go work for someone else to getting a job took 9 days. My point is that if the money isn’t making you happy then take a few weeks off mull over what you want, write it down, put it in an envelope and open that envelope in 3mths, if it’s still what you want then go for it. The only thing certain in life is none of us have enough time.
    - newmoney420 8y ago
      > Take a few weeks off mull over what you want, write it down, put it in an envelope and open that envelope in 3mths, if it’s still what you want then go for it. I'm going to do this. Thank you. I have a leisure trip planned soon for 2 weeks (first time ever taking >1 week off at a time). I will do it then.
      - deathhand 8y ago
        If I could be the devil's advocate I would say that you aren't scaling properly and that is leading to your stress but I am no new pot millionaire. Employ those around you that you trust and that will do well for you. "if you want to do it fast go alone, if you want to go far go with others"
pwned1 8y ago
Are you a multi-millionaire in hard assets with a return on investment, or on paper (such as stock options or illiquid stock ownership)?
- deleted 8y ago
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bit1 8y ago
> I recently became a multi-millionaire (not from crypto) and this is so true. I'm less happy than I was > Even though I'm young, I feel as though I'm entrenched in this game now with no viable way out. I'd be happy to take those unwanted millions off your hands so that you could return to the life you miss. I'm the breadwinner of a single-income family in the Seattle area and I don't make a FANG-level salary. If we could afford to buy a home instead of renting, I think we'd be much happier.
lordnacho 8y ago
> I'm only close to 1 other human in the whole world... It's worth considering whether you'd feel the same if you'd chosen some other path. Having people you're close to doesn't appear to depend on what you do with your working life, at least that's my perspective. I also spent my working life chasing money, but it's not like I don't have friends. I have a load of family that I'm close to as well. Somehow it seems none of them care what I'm actually up in terms of business, in fact I doubt they'd even be able to explain it as a one-liner. I'm in my hometown at the moment for a family wedding. I don't think I know what most of the dozens of family members do for a living, other than headline. Basically if you want to have fulfilling relationships, go and do that. In fact it's even easier now that you have some money to pay for expenses. Just call your old pals from school and say you want to hang out. You'll find you have more friend than you think.

gms 8y ago

Thank you for your perspective; it's rarely shared.

tsunamifury 8y ago

I strongly recommend taking a few weeks off and traveling someplace random. You'll be able to see how your current money goes so much further almost anywhere else in the world and that you have many more options than you think you do... plus you'll meet new people. Don't worry so much about it, likely you're a bit burned out and feel trapped when you're actually more free than most people.

newmoney420 8y ago
I think I've been officially burnt out for ~14 months now (read: even longer than that). In that time we've taken a couple 1 week vacations. When I get back I'm back to my normal self for 3 weeks or so and then I notice the signs again. Is it important to take those weeks consecutively instead of multiple shorter trips? Genuinely curious. I think one source of my woes is the proverbial "golden handcuffs". Yes, I have a lot of money already. But, I'm expected to continue operating as I have been for multiple years to come (and yes, there is a strong financial incentive to perform). Willful failure to perform could bring lawsuits, resignations, bankruptcy, who knows. To my rationale, I already committed to n additional years of start-up-hustle level work (100% growth per year for multiple years). There is a strong financial incentive to complete this. If I willfully fail to perform I risk essentially bankruptcy. I'm aware that I said in my previous post that I don't really need the money. But, at the same time I do? I have a mortgage, wife, (soon) children. I do regret almost all significant life choices I've made to date currently, but now that I'm here it's overly painful to get out (I think?). Sorry for the rant. Lots of pressure. I should probably start writing in a journal instead of posting my thoughts publicly online.
- shawn 8y ago
  Not at all. Throwaway accounts are for exactly this, and we're a community, so we're here to back you up. When I made a throwaway some years ago, I also made a gmail and put it in the throwaway's profile. I ended up getting a lot of supportive emails that helped me through a rough time. Some of the advice was stuff that can't really be shared publicly too, which was useful. I empathize a lot with the expectation to continue doing your job, and it's worth addressing. Take care of yourself.
- noir_lord 8y ago
  I burnt out last year just over a year ago. I shut everything down and went and got a full time job. It’s only after a year of not working more than 40hrs a week have I realised how close to the wind I sailed (burnout co-incided with some serious health issues). Now I work 9-5 for a decent wage and have time for my partner, her boy and my hobbies (Chess and cycling). We are fortunate, we work in an in demand industry, from deciding I just wanted to go work for someone else to getting a job took 9 days. My point is that if the money isn’t making you happy then take a few weeks off mull over what you want, write it down, put it in an envelope and open that envelope in 3mths, if it’s still what you want then go for it. The only thing certain in life is none of us have enough time.
  - newmoney420 8y ago
    > Take a few weeks off mull over what you want, write it down, put it in an envelope and open that envelope in 3mths, if it’s still what you want then go for it. I'm going to do this. Thank you. I have a leisure trip planned soon for 2 weeks (first time ever taking >1 week off at a time). I will do it then.
    - deathhand 8y ago
      If I could be the devil's advocate I would say that you aren't scaling properly and that is leading to your stress but I am no new pot millionaire. Employ those around you that you trust and that will do well for you. "if you want to do it fast go alone, if you want to go far go with others"

pwned1 8y ago

Are you a multi-millionaire in hard assets with a return on investment, or on paper (such as stock options or illiquid stock ownership)?

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bit1 8y ago

> I recently became a multi-millionaire (not from crypto) and this is so true. I'm less happy than I was > Even though I'm young, I feel as though I'm entrenched in this game now with no viable way out. I'd be happy to take those unwanted millions off your hands so that you could return to the life you miss. I'm the breadwinner of a single-income family in the Seattle area and I don't make a FANG-level salary. If we could afford to buy a home instead of renting, I think we'd be much happier.

lordnacho 8y ago

> I'm only close to 1 other human in the whole world... It's worth considering whether you'd feel the same if you'd chosen some other path. Having people you're close to doesn't appear to depend on what you do with your working life, at least that's my perspective. I also spent my working life chasing money, but it's not like I don't have friends. I have a load of family that I'm close to as well. Somehow it seems none of them care what I'm actually up in terms of business, in fact I doubt they'd even be able to explain it as a one-liner. I'm in my hometown at the moment for a family wedding. I don't think I know what most of the dozens of family members do for a living, other than headline. Basically if you want to have fulfilling relationships, go and do that. In fact it's even easier now that you have some money to pay for expenses. Just call your old pals from school and say you want to hang out. You'll find you have more friend than you think.