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Electron apps are for amateurs and small start up teams. Once you are into the 7b valuation range, you need to put on big boy pants, and make big boy software t

Electron apps are for amateurs and small start up teams. Once you are into the 7b valuation range, you need to put on big boy pants, and make big boy software that runs as advertised. No video functionality even needs to exist for it to run terribly. I have never used the video feature, and it causes my entire 4-5 year old system to chug. I can't even consider using it on an old linux machine. People shouldn't have to put up with the system crawl that ensues after firing up slack. It is absurd for the money they charge.

chrisco255 8y ago
VS Code is an Electron app written by the $800B Microsoft. Maybe you've heard of them?
- russdpale 8y ago
  Yeh and don't look now but... its also becoming a bloated mess. Notepad++ is a native application and it blows vscode out of the water for speed. Though obviously it does not have ide-esque features of vscode. Furthermore, there is no paid version of VS Code, and if there were, and it ran like dogs ass, I would say the same thing. They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application.
  - chii 8y ago
    > They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application. for VScode, there's Visual Studio. And VScode isn't slow by any stretch. It does take a bit of memory (as expected of an electron app). But it's well engineered, and has very little slow laggy UI parts.
    - bdcravens 8y ago
      To be fair, I'm sure if they added WebRTC to VScode it'd be slow too. (Plus whatever Slack is doing to receive notifications and messages in real time - not sure if that's also WebRTC or something like Web Sockets) Edit: thought Skype wasn't in Electron, obviously I'm wrong: https://electronjs.org/apps/skype https://electronjs.org/apps/skype
      - detaro 8y ago
        The current Skype clients are Electron-based.
        bdcravens 8y ago
        Guess I should have verified that before I opened my big mouth.. oops!
peterwwillis 8y ago
Nobody at the executive level is determining what application platform to use. The bigger your company gets, the farther away they are from this decision. In fact, from an executive level, the fact that people are using the app despite complaints shows they are doing something right. The alternative for users is to go with a competitor that competes with everything Slack provides, in addition to improved performance. There are at least two such competitors out there, but people put up with Slack, even though they don't have to.

chrisco255 8y ago

VS Code is an Electron app written by the $800B Microsoft. Maybe you've heard of them?

russdpale 8y ago
Yeh and don't look now but... its also becoming a bloated mess. Notepad++ is a native application and it blows vscode out of the water for speed. Though obviously it does not have ide-esque features of vscode. Furthermore, there is no paid version of VS Code, and if there were, and it ran like dogs ass, I would say the same thing. They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application.
- chii 8y ago
  > They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application. for VScode, there's Visual Studio. And VScode isn't slow by any stretch. It does take a bit of memory (as expected of an electron app). But it's well engineered, and has very little slow laggy UI parts.
  - bdcravens 8y ago
    To be fair, I'm sure if they added WebRTC to VScode it'd be slow too. (Plus whatever Slack is doing to receive notifications and messages in real time - not sure if that's also WebRTC or something like Web Sockets) Edit: thought Skype wasn't in Electron, obviously I'm wrong: https://electronjs.org/apps/skype https://electronjs.org/apps/skype
    - detaro 8y ago
      The current Skype clients are Electron-based.
      - bdcravens 8y ago
        Guess I should have verified that before I opened my big mouth.. oops!

peterwwillis 8y ago

Nobody at the executive level is determining what application platform to use. The bigger your company gets, the farther away they are from this decision. In fact, from an executive level, the fact that people are using the app despite complaints shows they are doing something right. The alternative for users is to go with a competitor that competes with everything Slack provides, in addition to improved performance. There are at least two such competitors out there, but people put up with Slack, even though they don't have to.