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What's next? Opt-out phone-home, telemetry, crash reporting, quality analytics, whatever you call it. That's my prediction. My Synology personal file server

What's next? Opt-out phone-home, telemetry, crash reporting, quality analytics, whatever you call it. That's my prediction. My Synology personal file server started nagging about enabling telemetry and needing a privacy notice to store my files on my drive on my network. Screw that.

drdeadringer 8y ago
I use a Synology personal server, but an older one. I have been considering upgrading to a more modern version. Do you remember about when this nagging began? Was it related to a firmware upgrade or was it "right out of the box"?
- proactivesvcs 8y ago
  I think I first saw it after installing DSM 6.2
- tw04 8y ago
  It's literally a one time prompt. I think calling it nagging is a bit extreme.
  - a254613e 8y ago
    At least for me the prompt isn't a one time thing, unless you consent to enabling telemetry. I get asked whether I want to enable it all the time when logging in.
    - imglorp 8y ago
      Yes, you can disable it forever [1]. Oh and there's actually a tiny "skip" on the nag screen in dull contrast, more user hostility. It's the concept I object to, though: If I pay for it, I should not be the product. And a privacy notice on something that's by definition supposed to be private. 1. Control Panel -> Info -> Device Analytics. https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/8mdioc/device_analytics_whats_this_and_how_can_i_disable/ https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/8mdioc/device_ana...
peterkelly 8y ago
Even Wacom tablet drivers phone home now: https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/7zzq8p/you_should_know_wacom_has_added_google_analytics/ https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/7zzq8p/you_should_kn...
- egypturnash 8y ago
  Sweet mother of fucker, thanks for mentioning that. I use my Wacom tablet for pretty much EVERYTHING when it’s connected. Turned that shit right off.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  I struggled to upgrade my graphics card drivers on an old gaming PC just the other day because I'd forgotten my "GeForce Experience" password and had to reset it.
  - Accacin 8y ago
    My thoughts exactly. What a weird turn of events when it's easier to install Nvidia drivers on Linux using your distro's package manager than it is on Windows!
  - dnzm 8y ago
    To be fair, it is possible to download the drivers without the experience bullshit.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
  Gosh! How is this even legal?! Thank you for mentioning that.
Fnoord 8y ago
Docker already got (some) of that. They tell you at the end of the installation. You need to manually find it in the Settings and opt out of it. As for Synology, I did opt out of that as well. It'd be great if this crap was opt in... since the industry doesn't agree, I propose we make it law.
- goliatone 8y ago
  I thought in EU that was the case
pluma 8y ago
At least thanks to GDPR these companies now have to tell you and (in some cases) explicitly request your specific consent, rather than just doing it behind your back.
justinclift 8y ago
Just as a data point, FreeNAS (freenas.org) is pretty decent if you're ok with building your own storage box. :)
- Fnoord 8y ago
  If you like the Synology software stack you can also use XPenology which is pretty much DSM but then for non-Synology devices. Linux-based, so btrfs instead of ZFS.
coredog64 8y ago
> What's next? Docker being purchased by Oracle and then users being subject to audits for the audacity of running Docker.

drdeadringer 8y ago

I use a Synology personal server, but an older one. I have been considering upgrading to a more modern version. Do you remember about when this nagging began? Was it related to a firmware upgrade or was it "right out of the box"?

proactivesvcs 8y ago
I think I first saw it after installing DSM 6.2
tw04 8y ago
It's literally a one time prompt. I think calling it nagging is a bit extreme.
- a254613e 8y ago
  At least for me the prompt isn't a one time thing, unless you consent to enabling telemetry. I get asked whether I want to enable it all the time when logging in.
  - imglorp 8y ago
    Yes, you can disable it forever [1]. Oh and there's actually a tiny "skip" on the nag screen in dull contrast, more user hostility. It's the concept I object to, though: If I pay for it, I should not be the product. And a privacy notice on something that's by definition supposed to be private. 1. Control Panel -> Info -> Device Analytics. https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/8mdioc/device_analytics_whats_this_and_how_can_i_disable/ https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/8mdioc/device_ana...

peterkelly 8y ago

Even Wacom tablet drivers phone home now: https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/7zzq8p/you_should_know_wacom_has_added_google_analytics/ https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/7zzq8p/you_should_kn...

egypturnash 8y ago
Sweet mother of fucker, thanks for mentioning that. I use my Wacom tablet for pretty much EVERYTHING when it’s connected. Turned that shit right off.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
I struggled to upgrade my graphics card drivers on an old gaming PC just the other day because I'd forgotten my "GeForce Experience" password and had to reset it.
- Accacin 8y ago
  My thoughts exactly. What a weird turn of events when it's easier to install Nvidia drivers on Linux using your distro's package manager than it is on Windows!
- dnzm 8y ago
  To be fair, it is possible to download the drivers without the experience bullshit.
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
Gosh! How is this even legal?! Thank you for mentioning that.

Fnoord 8y ago

Docker already got (some) of that. They tell you at the end of the installation. You need to manually find it in the Settings and opt out of it. As for Synology, I did opt out of that as well. It'd be great if this crap was opt in... since the industry doesn't agree, I propose we make it law.

goliatone 8y ago
I thought in EU that was the case

pluma 8y ago

At least thanks to GDPR these companies now have to tell you and (in some cases) explicitly request your specific consent, rather than just doing it behind your back.

justinclift 8y ago

Just as a data point, FreeNAS (freenas.org) is pretty decent if you're ok with building your own storage box. :)

Fnoord 8y ago
If you like the Synology software stack you can also use XPenology which is pretty much DSM but then for non-Synology devices. Linux-based, so btrfs instead of ZFS.

coredog64 8y ago

> What's next? Docker being purchased by Oracle and then users being subject to audits for the audacity of running Docker.