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The tools don't matter, it might be nice, but even though "tons of people prefer the Microsoft environment" I can't recall the last time they produced a product
by tomh- 16y ago
The tools don't matter, it might be nice, but even though "tons of people prefer the Microsoft environment" I can't recall the last time they produced a product having superior user experience thanks to those tools. I can't name a single website/webapp/desktop app that I enjoy using on a daily base made with visual studio. I know a lot of the game companies use visual studio (c++) to produce parts of their games, but I'm not sure which of the latest games are produced using XNA.
My point is the tools don't matter as much as the strategy and decisions of Microsoft in other parts of the ecosystem to attract talent to produce content for their devices.
- bananaandapple 16y agoI use windows 7 on a daily basis and I enjoy it! And I bet it's made with visual studio.
- tomh- 16y agoI totally forgot about Windows somehow, I use it on a daily base too and I'm very happy with it :)
- sterwill 16y agoThat may not be a safe assumption.
- daeken 16y agoBut it's a correct one. Razzle is used internally for building the kernel and drivers, but the majority (I believe?) of the userspace is done using VS.
- sterwill 16y agoI heard from a former Windows team member that Source Insight was popular a few years ago, but things have probably changed.
- kenjackson 16y agoZune desktop client? Media Center? Windows Live Writer? Camtasia? Visual Studio?
- TheIronYuppie 16y agoSorry, totally disagree. Tools matter. A LOT. Being able to build my LOB app in VB and launch on a company's phones = huge win for IT Departments. The world isn't all about consumers and flash. Whether or not they can win that market is an open question, but they'll make a dent. And Blackberry has built a very successful business doing just that (doing ok with consumers and crushing enterprise)
- gte910h 16y agoStackOverflow.com?
- frou_dh 16y agoThat's the thing. Even if ObjC/Xcode is in fact inferior to C#/VS, it hasn't stopped talented iPhone and Mac developers from creating great apps.