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If only we could praise the actual product (iPhone, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac, etc...) for being amazing an great and not something they dont do (collect user

by ProAm 8y ago

If only we could praise the actual product (iPhone, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac, etc...) for being amazing an great and not something they dont do (collect user personal data and sell it). It's great Apple takes privacy seriously (as all companies should) it seems like lately Apple is using that all the cherry for the company versus turning out great innovative products that just work (like they used to). If they did both I could get on the Apple bandwagon, right now this is just PR and marketing.

Bud 8y ago
"Marketing" is the stuff you write about yourself. Praise from a critic is called something else.
- ProAm 8y ago
  I would agree but Apple has a handful of journalist it 'likes' and get's first shots at a lot of things. Not saying this is the case, and this is a good thing Apple does. I think its just ignoring a important part of the Apple ecosystem, the product itself.
fipple 8y ago
The privacy practices are part of the product.
MBCook 8y ago
The MacBook Pro and Mac Pro I’ll give you, I agree there. I think the iMac is doing fine, maybe it’s time for a spec bump (next month?). What’s wrong with the iPhone though? That’s the product that seems to work better than any of the others. How have the last few years not been great? Im not looking for some small personal preference thing, like the lack of the headphone jack. The MBPs lost useful ports for a flakey ecosystem, have keyboard problems, lowered their battery life for real work, and got hotter. The Mac Pro... is from 2013. Enough said. What problems of any similar caliber exist for the iPhone?
freehunter 8y ago
Where I thought you were going with that when I read your first sentence is, I wish people could look at products for the things they do (features they have) rather than for the things they don't do (features they don't have). Regardless of Apple's recent slip in quality, they consistently put out features later than some of their competitors, but also at a higher quality than their competitors. Too often I'll see an article about "Apple introduces TouchID" and the comments say "Samsung has had a fingerprint reader for years!" like that matters or like the various fingerprint reader solutions were any good before TouchID. Or the iPod, we all know it's not the first MP3 player, but it was a very high quality MP3 player with a very high quality user experience, which really does matter. I felt the same way about Palm (Google was a cooler company, so Android won even though WebOS was a more pure Linux system, friendlier to developers, and HTML/JS was the preferred app architecture followed by standard C++) and Microsoft (they don't have X app, even though the features from X app are built into the core OS). Dropbox was the same way, people hated on it when it was released because a hacked-together rsync solution worked "the same way". Too often we get hung up on what a product doesn't do or doesn't do uniquely and ignore that execution is often more important. It's possible to launch into a crowded and competitive market and win, as long as you execute better.
yAak 8y ago
As both a mobile developer and a consumer, I'll praise the iPhone over other smartphones all day long as an amazing and great product that just works.

by ProAm 8y ago

Bud 8y ago

"Marketing" is the stuff you write about yourself. Praise from a critic is called something else.

ProAm 8y ago
I would agree but Apple has a handful of journalist it 'likes' and get's first shots at a lot of things. Not saying this is the case, and this is a good thing Apple does. I think its just ignoring a important part of the Apple ecosystem, the product itself.

fipple 8y ago

The privacy practices are part of the product.

MBCook 8y ago

The MacBook Pro and Mac Pro I’ll give you, I agree there. I think the iMac is doing fine, maybe it’s time for a spec bump (next month?). What’s wrong with the iPhone though? That’s the product that seems to work better than any of the others. How have the last few years not been great? Im not looking for some small personal preference thing, like the lack of the headphone jack. The MBPs lost useful ports for a flakey ecosystem, have keyboard problems, lowered their battery life for real work, and got hotter. The Mac Pro... is from 2013. Enough said. What problems of any similar caliber exist for the iPhone?

freehunter 8y ago

Where I thought you were going with that when I read your first sentence is, I wish people could look at products for the things they do (features they have) rather than for the things they don't do (features they don't have). Regardless of Apple's recent slip in quality, they consistently put out features later than some of their competitors, but also at a higher quality than their competitors. Too often I'll see an article about "Apple introduces TouchID" and the comments say "Samsung has had a fingerprint reader for years!" like that matters or like the various fingerprint reader solutions were any good before TouchID. Or the iPod, we all know it's not the first MP3 player, but it was a very high quality MP3 player with a very high quality user experience, which really does matter. I felt the same way about Palm (Google was a cooler company, so Android won even though WebOS was a more pure Linux system, friendlier to developers, and HTML/JS was the preferred app architecture followed by standard C++) and Microsoft (they don't have X app, even though the features from X app are built into the core OS). Dropbox was the same way, people hated on it when it was released because a hacked-together rsync solution worked "the same way". Too often we get hung up on what a product doesn't do or doesn't do uniquely and ignore that execution is often more important. It's possible to launch into a crowded and competitive market and win, as long as you execute better.

yAak 8y ago

As both a mobile developer and a consumer, I'll praise the iPhone over other smartphones all day long as an amazing and great product that just works.