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I lived in Shanghai for 6 months and the internet sucked more then the air and thats when its hurting to take in a deep breath in winter. After returning to Ger
by Treegarden 8y ago
I lived in Shanghai for 6 months and the internet sucked more then the air and thats when its hurting to take in a deep breath in winter. After returning to Germany I was more happy about the free internet (and freedom of speech and so on..) then about the clean air.
To me comparing China to the NSA (USA) is weak. As you wrote this, the current top result on Reddit is this: https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/98el62/un_says_it_has_credible_reports_china_is_holding/?ref=share&ref_source=link https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/98el62/un_says_i...
I dont see the USA getting these kinds of headlines anytime soon. Moreover China has earned critique for partially rolling out their citizen scoring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion https://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-cr...
I am not the biggest fan of the GDPR and its also tragic to me that Europe has no real innovative internet companies. And as far as I know Brazil has some big challenges with corruption so I wouldn't take its policies as a shining example (not implying that you did though).
I kind of see the internet as my home and culture in many ways. I have met Egyptians, Brazilians and Koreans that shared the same internet culture as me. In contrast I have made much fewer friends in mainland China due to them not using the same internet as me (and thus not having even remotely something in common). They instead consume their own entertainment such as Chinese soap operas which my mainland friends have told me are vastly inferior to their western counterparts (not soap operas but entertainment and culture in general). Finally the restricted access inhibits the development of better English skills which further divides
I dont care much for visas or nation-sovereignty. I hope that we one day have universal human right centered values based on an free internet and open borders so that I am not limited in my pursuit of happiness by some arbitrary political rule.
- ronnier 8y agoI was in China for a week at the Amazon office. It was very jarring not able to load google. Or YouTube. Or gmail. Or google maps. The list goes on and on. Facebook won’t load. Even many vpns are blocked.
- nradov 8y agoHow does Amazon actually operate their China office? Don't they have a site-to-site VPN back to the main corporate network for secure internal communications?
- ronnier 8y agoThis was about two years ago and I don’t want to talk about internals too much. But from the office I couldn’t load any google sites. I was able to manually connect to the amazon vpn and reach google.
- hkai 8y agoThere's an unrestricted internet link to Hong Kong that you can rent. My company's office was paying 35000 USD but it's a big office, around 300 people.
- askaboutit 8y agoThere are apparently 100 million VPN users in China. So people do access outside offerings. Everyone I met in China had used Instagram or Facebook. These things can’t be stopped.
- hkai 8y agoYes they can and they are. It's hard to find at least a partially working VPN and using VPN is highly illegal. You can use data roaming though on your foreign SIM card to access the real internet.
- iforgotpassword 8y agoHuh? Never had a problem with VPN there. Used OpenVPN to my own VPS mostly, and the cheapest PIA offer in February this year.
- singularity2001 8y ago… tragic to me that Europe has no real innovative internet companies. Maybe Europe will have successful companies once they stop being subverted by US dominated monopolies, espionage and strong-arming.