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> I think what OP wanted is usable NUC alternative on ARM (popularity is the result of that and is really proportional) There's a little truth to that, but it

by giobox 8y ago

> I think what OP wanted is usable NUC alternative on ARM (popularity is the result of that and is really proportional) There's a little truth to that, but it also overlooks the huge effort the Pi Foundation has made to foster a community, which I think is the one thing the Pi team do that other board manufacturers simply haven't come close to matching. I'd personally argue it's the work of the Pi Foundation that has lead to the boards success more so than the boards themselves, which to be honest are increasingly pretty under powered compared to almost all rivals and have very long intervals between upgrades. It has probably also helped that the Pi Foundation is a charity promoting CS education in schools, rather than a commercial enteriprise.

dcbadacd 8y ago
> but it also overlooks the huge effort the Pi Foundation has made to foster a community I think I didn't overlook it, Linux already has a huge community, they had to roll their own (community) because they weren't compatible enough, this is better than none, but not as good as it could be.
HeadsUpHigh 8y ago
Mainline drivers or bust. Today we no longer absolutely need to make compromises and rely on corporate support for out of tree kernelsm
imtringued 8y ago
I don't think so. I feel like the Pi is dragging down the rest of the industry by using broadcom chips based on a GPU that has been obsolete for a long time.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  How can the Pi be dragging down the industry that it created and is still dominating by a hefty margin? People already have plenty of alternatives but somehow their price/performance ratio renders them to obscurity. Perhaps that must mean something.
  - oarsinsync 8y ago
    A small player in an industry doesn't have the volume to drag down the industry, only the dominant player does. The dominant player in this instance is insisting on using chipsets that are effectively obsolete when compared to the competition. As a result, the community that they command continues to work on supporting this obsolete hardware, rather than newer hardware. Network effects exist here just like in many other industries.

by giobox 8y ago

dcbadacd 8y ago

> but it also overlooks the huge effort the Pi Foundation has made to foster a community I think I didn't overlook it, Linux already has a huge community, they had to roll their own (community) because they weren't compatible enough, this is better than none, but not as good as it could be.

HeadsUpHigh 8y ago

Mainline drivers or bust. Today we no longer absolutely need to make compromises and rely on corporate support for out of tree kernelsm

imtringued 8y ago

I don't think so. I feel like the Pi is dragging down the rest of the industry by using broadcom chips based on a GPU that has been obsolete for a long time.

geezerjay 8y ago
How can the Pi be dragging down the industry that it created and is still dominating by a hefty margin? People already have plenty of alternatives but somehow their price/performance ratio renders them to obscurity. Perhaps that must mean something.
- oarsinsync 8y ago
  A small player in an industry doesn't have the volume to drag down the industry, only the dominant player does. The dominant player in this instance is insisting on using chipsets that are effectively obsolete when compared to the competition. As a result, the community that they command continues to work on supporting this obsolete hardware, rather than newer hardware. Network effects exist here just like in many other industries.