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I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stu

I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stuff even doing?

brewrwe 8y ago
I ended up going to Thunderbird for my main email addresses (work & personal), with Rainmail for quasi-disposable addresses on my various domains. Works much better than Gmail did towards the end of my years using Gmail.
- luc4sdreyer 8y ago
  I have to use Thunderbird for work and I wish it was 1% as good as Gmail. The search sucks, it's slow to receive mail, it crashes quite often. Either your Gmail is profoundly broken or you have a magic Thunderbird. In case the latter is true: do you have any tips to optimise Thunderbird?
  - Grimm665 8y ago
    Have been running Thunderbird for G-Apps based work email for over a year (Fedora 26,27). Using the Provider for Google Calendar extension works well for integrating calendar into Thunderbird. Other than fighting with the calendar occasionally (sometimes needing to force a manual sync to see coworkers' events), Gmail in Thunderbird has been pretty smooth. I have not noticed slow search, slow mail receipt, or application crashes. In fact, the search is often too good, in that after running it it matches hundreds of more emails than I usually expect. I usually stick with the quick filter which is a bit less flexible, but generally returns more useful results. Another advantage, on Linux at least, is that if you copy your ~/.thunderbird folder to another machine, all accounts, GUI layouts, settings, search results, tabs, etc move over flawlessly. I think you just have to re-sign in for Google accounts on the new machine and you are good to go.
  - znpy 8y ago
    Thunderbird is quite a piece of crap. Apart from the core, everything else is written in javascript and thus it is a single-core web application. I have decided to just leave it be, and let it hog my computer, because it interface decently with google calendar. That being said, I can definitely vouch for clients like Claws Mail (a bit ugly, but does its job) and Evolution (super fast, but it's written in C#/Mono)
  - brewrwe 8y ago
    I would check that Google isn't ratelimiting you, and I would also check that your hard drive/SSD and RAM aren't dying. I've experienced issues like what you describe, but the first time was caused by a dying hard disk, and the 2nd by Google limiting the number of IMAP connections to a hilariously low number.
codedokode 8y ago
I usually append /h/ to the URL (/mail/h/) and get a HTML version. It can work even without JS and it has classic design with small rows that works well on my small screen. No Material Design and no huge elements with large offsets.
- bevel 8y ago
  I hate material design. I don't want more vacant space, I want density. Ive always loved Japanese website layouts. Content is beauty.
  - audiolion 8y ago
    do you have any examples or resources on Japanese style web design?
    - themodelplumber 8y ago
      It's everywhere. Simple example: Compare the differences--and even the subtleties--in information density between yahoo.co.jp and Yahoo.com.
      - anonytrary 8y ago
        Oh wow that is a stark contrast. yahoo.co.uk, yahoo.co.in, yahoo.co.id, etc. are all incredibly low-density as well. I have always loved the Japanese aesthetic, I wonder if any other cultures have a similar preference for websites.
        SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Only downside being that it's common to see people walking around in Japan with their phone about a foot in front of their face.
        themodelplumber 8y ago
vesak 8y ago
Mining your personal data for ad revenue. Or was this a trick question?

I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stuff even doing?

brewrwe 8y ago

I ended up going to Thunderbird for my main email addresses (work & personal), with Rainmail for quasi-disposable addresses on my various domains. Works much better than Gmail did towards the end of my years using Gmail.

luc4sdreyer 8y ago
I have to use Thunderbird for work and I wish it was 1% as good as Gmail. The search sucks, it's slow to receive mail, it crashes quite often. Either your Gmail is profoundly broken or you have a magic Thunderbird. In case the latter is true: do you have any tips to optimise Thunderbird?
- Grimm665 8y ago
  Have been running Thunderbird for G-Apps based work email for over a year (Fedora 26,27). Using the Provider for Google Calendar extension works well for integrating calendar into Thunderbird. Other than fighting with the calendar occasionally (sometimes needing to force a manual sync to see coworkers' events), Gmail in Thunderbird has been pretty smooth. I have not noticed slow search, slow mail receipt, or application crashes. In fact, the search is often too good, in that after running it it matches hundreds of more emails than I usually expect. I usually stick with the quick filter which is a bit less flexible, but generally returns more useful results. Another advantage, on Linux at least, is that if you copy your ~/.thunderbird folder to another machine, all accounts, GUI layouts, settings, search results, tabs, etc move over flawlessly. I think you just have to re-sign in for Google accounts on the new machine and you are good to go.
- znpy 8y ago
  Thunderbird is quite a piece of crap. Apart from the core, everything else is written in javascript and thus it is a single-core web application. I have decided to just leave it be, and let it hog my computer, because it interface decently with google calendar. That being said, I can definitely vouch for clients like Claws Mail (a bit ugly, but does its job) and Evolution (super fast, but it's written in C#/Mono)
- brewrwe 8y ago
  I would check that Google isn't ratelimiting you, and I would also check that your hard drive/SSD and RAM aren't dying. I've experienced issues like what you describe, but the first time was caused by a dying hard disk, and the 2nd by Google limiting the number of IMAP connections to a hilariously low number.

codedokode 8y ago

I usually append /h/ to the URL (/mail/h/) and get a HTML version. It can work even without JS and it has classic design with small rows that works well on my small screen. No Material Design and no huge elements with large offsets.

bevel 8y ago
I hate material design. I don't want more vacant space, I want density. Ive always loved Japanese website layouts. Content is beauty.
- audiolion 8y ago
  do you have any examples or resources on Japanese style web design?
  - themodelplumber 8y ago
    It's everywhere. Simple example: Compare the differences--and even the subtleties--in information density between yahoo.co.jp and Yahoo.com.
    - anonytrary 8y ago
      Oh wow that is a stark contrast. yahoo.co.uk, yahoo.co.in, yahoo.co.id, etc. are all incredibly low-density as well. I have always loved the Japanese aesthetic, I wonder if any other cultures have a similar preference for websites.
      - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
        Only downside being that it's common to see people walking around in Japan with their phone about a foot in front of their face.
        themodelplumber 8y ago

vesak 8y ago

Mining your personal data for ad revenue. Or was this a trick question?