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Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)

214 points by tzury 16y ago

cdr 16y ago
There appear to still be serious issues with both the proprietary Nvidia and ATI drivers with Xorg 1.9 - kind of a shame. If you have an older Nvidia card, or an ATI card plus certain monitors, you're not going to be able to use the good drivers with 10.10 for awhile.
- paol 16y ago
  Is that with the ubuntu supplied drivers or the nvidia ones? Everything is working well for me with the latest nvidia drivers (256.53) on a GTX 260 card.
  - cdr 16y ago
    According to the release notes, nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 are the ones with the issue.
- rgarcia 16y ago
  i've run into this issue after upgrading--cpu usage is high and graphics rendering is slow. after disabling the proprietary nvidia driver everything went back to normal. there's a beta nvidia driver that claims to fix some of the problems, i'm trying it now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577997 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577997
jeffreyg 16y ago
released on 10/10/10. cool.
- bergie 16y ago
  Not only that, but also at 10:10 UTC
Kliment 16y ago
Is it just me, or are there no release notes?
- rquirk 16y ago
  It was linked to in the release email at least: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010
  - Kliment 16y ago
    Thank you! It was missing on the page.
    - nailer 16y ago
      Makes sense - things like gconf and dsettings are fr developers, not end users. The main page has a what's new, I believe, which covers more common interests.
      - Kliment 16y ago
        Well, known issues with installation do belong on the page targeted at users, I think. At least as a link.
ubuntuftfw 16y ago
Torrents: 64 bit: http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64_iso http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64... 32 bit: http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_... Please seed
- mdaniel 16y ago
  I'm not an expert in BitTorrent, but in my mental model, aren't you siphoning away seeders from the _official_ Ubuntu trackers by using burnbit? I can appreciate using burnbit for certain behemoth companies that don't normally publish via torrent, but since ubuntu.com actually offers them along-side the isos, this smells counterproductive.
  - Freak2love 16y ago
    I think uTorrent does not even connect to web seeds unless there are low seeds/peers
  - webignition 16y ago
    In this case yes. The torrent file from burnbit appears to list only the burnbit tracker. A torrent file can list multiple trackers. It would make more sense for burnbit to take the official torrent and add their tracker to the list, allowing a client to make use of the peers listed by their tracker and the official tracker. The offical torrent provides both IPv6 and IPv4 trackers, which is nice.
- superos 16y ago
  Official torrent downloads: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-downloa...
  - pbhjpbhj 16y ago
    Getting [k]ubuntu upgrades is about the only thing I've used torrents for seriously - it always takes far far longer than a direct download from one of my nearest mirrors. Like 24hrs instead of 1. I'm not leeching I get lots of connections it just goes slow as molasses. Guess I'm doing it wrong but just in case others are getting slow downloads via torrent I'd really consider a direct download.
pedrokost 16y ago
I hoped they would manage to make my wireless card work wirelessly. They didn't :(
- ciupicri 16y ago
  I'm not the one that downvoted you, but I think that you could have at least mentioned the model of the wireless card, not to mention a `lspci -v' dump or a real bug report.
  - pedrokost 16y ago
    The reason I didn't add any more info is because I don't use HN to fix my network problems. I have posted the question on ubuntuforums.org and I am still awaiting a reply.
    - mrdoob2 16y ago
      http://askubuntu.com/ http://askubuntu.com/
MisterWebz 16y ago
How can i update to the newest version from the 10.10 release candidate?
- thristian 16y ago
  System → Administration → Update Manager should do it, if you're using the GUI; if not, try the usual "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
  - jdub 16y ago
    The correct way to upgrade Ubuntu from the command line is "do-release-upgrade" (which includes extra upgrading smarts that apt alone does not).
    - TorKlingberg 16y ago
      Why doesn't the apt-get man page mention this? It is getting rather difficult keeping track of what the current recommended way is.
    - lazyant 16y ago
      More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade , https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/installing-upgrading.html https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/installing-upgra...
    - thristian 16y ago
      We're talking about upgrading from the 10.10 release candidate to 10.10 final, right? That shouldn't require "do-release-upgrade", surely.
  - SkyMarshal 16y ago
    Yes, avoid dist-upgrade, it apparently can break dependencies. Upgrade to a major version with %> sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
- 16y ago
codedivine 16y ago
Anyone going for Kubuntu?
- eternauta3k 16y ago
  I actually switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu just for the sake of change. Only thing I miss is split view in Nautilus, although it seems there are patches available.
  - jdub 16y ago
    You'll be pleased to find that Nautilus in 10.10 has a split pane view. Just hit View > Extra Pane (or F3). :-)
    - sprout 16y ago
      10.04 here... split panes work great.
- mbubb 16y ago
  Actually installed Xubuntu on a netbook (old hp 2133).
mgunes 16y ago
The link is here the image download page, which doesn't provide much context. Release Announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-Octob... Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 Upgrade Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading Desktop Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop Server Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/server http://www.ubuntu.com/server Netbook Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
RexRollman 16y ago
I have a Lenovo Ideapad S10 which has been running 10.04 since April and I've been pretty happy with it. I imagine that I will install 10.10 on it tomorrow.
- shaddi 16y ago
  Not sure what the Ideapads use for wifi, but there is an issue with the iwlagn driver (what my Thinkpad X61 uses) that disables 802.11n modes. Not a problem if you're using not using 802.11n, but something to be aware of. Check the release notes for details.
  - moxiemk1 16y ago
    The original S10 has an Atheros chip (non-N) I'll also be throwing this onto my OS-of-the-week S10 (I was trying to get Plan 9 running, but it wasn't having any of it)
    - RexRollman 16y ago
      I really like Plan 9. Too bad it never really took off.
  - RexRollman 16y ago
    My IdeaPad S10 uses a Broadcom BCM4312.
lazyant 16y ago
I installed it from CD in a friend's PC. Couple of little complaints: he was confused by the installation screen showing that he didn't have the requirement of "2.6 GB of available drive space": http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TH7Lkl4Jd-I/AAAAAAAAByc/ttFY5lOV3cA/ubuntu-10.10-screenshot.png http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TH7Lkl4Jd-I/AAAAAAAAByc/tt... He thought this was because there was another OS in the drive and didn't know how to proceed (the "Forward" button was grayed out). I took a look at it, suspected no hard drive detected and that was it, the newly install HD had no power attached to it. I just wished (for the newbies' sake) that instead/besides the disk space requirement with an X there was a note saying that no HD was detected. The second issue is that even if I chose "yes, install proprietary stuff" the WiFi card wasn't working because of missing firmware (at least the message was right there when clicking on the network icon -strange up/down arrows btw-). It took me only a few minutes to figure out and find the firmware update submenu and solve the issue but they could have linked that in the wifi connection message; my friend (someone with no experience outside Windows) would have not solved this issue by himself.
- pedrokost 16y ago
  what/where is the firmware submenu? I have WIFI issues after fresh install too.
  - superos 16y ago
    System | Administration | Additional Drivers
zacharypinter 16y ago
Clever that Ubuntu 10.10 is released on 10/10/10.
- javanix 16y ago
  That's how their version numbers work - 9.10 was released in October 09, 9.04 in April 09, etc.
  - dekomote 16y ago
    i don't think that the case. The first number is the year and the second is the month.
    - djacobs 16y ago
      Isn't that what he was implying?
      - lzw 16y ago
        Yes, but in previous years, it was on the 30th of the month that the release happened. This year it was on the 10th of the month so 10.10 could be year.month or month.day. They broke with tradition slightly to celebrate the day.
- zachrose 16y ago
  I want to upvote this, but then it would go past 10 upvotes.
- kijinbear 16y ago
  > The Ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is... 42, and in its' purest form 101010. Source: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-Octob...
sudonim 16y ago
Ubuntu's Software Center == Apple's iTunes Store. Making it as easy is a huge opportunity for Ubuntu. Looking forward to giving it a shot.
- jackolas 16y ago
  Well if Apple actually used unified updates... But yes it's very nice compared to what it used to be. I feel comfortable having people use it now.
liljimmytables 16y ago
Boring, obvious advice from someone who's been using Kubuntu since Feisty: if it's your main desktop, don't upgrade now unless you have to. For the sake of a couple of weeks' waiting you stand a much better chance of avoiding any teething troubles, or at least being able to to find documentation for your problem. This is especially relevant if you use a laptop or unusual hardware. (For the record I've been hit with laptop wifi incompatibility (the Intel wireless driver got changed, config files didn't update) and software RAID in the GRUB 2 update.)
- javanix 16y ago
  For anyone unfamiliar with it, many wifi issues can be taken care of with a little research and the compat-wireless (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download) downloads. Very easy to patch in the latest drivers for your chipset.
- SkyMarshal 16y ago
  Second that. Unless there's something major you just can't live without, which there doesn't appear to be in the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, let the pawns go first.
tvon 16y ago
Unless I'm seeing some leftovers from the beta/rc, I think the default theme still ships with a nearly impossible to grab window border, which is somewhat infuriating.
- dekomote 16y ago
  Usually i use shiki themes and elementary from time to time. They all have the same issue. I think that's metacity perk and not theme related. Recently I became switched to LXDE (try it on High Performance PC - Mind blown) and i don't have that problem as openbox has nice borders and handles.
  - paol 16y ago
    You can make borders as thick as you like. The "1px border" disease is a theme design problem. It wouldn't matter if bottom-right resize handles were standard, but as it is only a few windows have them.
    - NickPollard 16y ago
      Try holding down <Alt> and middle clicking anywhere near the window corner, I find that far faster than trying to grab any kind of corner or side, and I get frustrated when I have to use an OS (eg. Windows) that doesn't support this.
      - superos 16y ago
        I know that frustration. I catch myself trying to do that in Windows all the time.
- paol 16y ago
  No, you're seeing it correctly. I was of the (apparently minority) opinion that they had really dropped the ball with the new theme introduced in 10.04. That one release later still suffers from blatant UI screwups like that is really disappointing.
hristov 16y ago
I am surprised at how well their servers are handling this. I am using the standard method of updating from the update manager and I am getting over 1 Mbit/s speeds. So if you were waiting for the crowd to clear, no need to wait.
- icco 16y ago
  How long did your upgrade take?
  - hristov 16y ago
    The download part was no longer than 30 min. I am not sure how long the entire upgrade took because I left my computer and the upgrade stopped at one part because it needed to ask me a question.
    - cdr 16y ago
      I hate that - I wish someone could come up with a way to either front-load or back-load the prompts that interrupt the install. The upgrade alone took 3 hours on my laptop, and that ballooned to 5+ from it getting hung up on prompts.
      - slug 16y ago
        There's a way to do that, but it's mostly useful for deploying a large amount of machines,ie, if you don't use something like cloning machines: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
    - cakeface 16y ago
      yes |
    - icco 16y ago
      Interesting. My entire upgrade took 52 minutes, and only had two prompts. Two more than I'd like, but two compared to the 20 someodd I used to get is great.
TorKlingberg 16y ago
I just installed 10.10 on my netbook, and the user interface has been completely redone... again. I am happy that Canonical are working so much on UI, but I wish they would stick to a basic layout for a while and improve it until it is solid and all the details are right. It will never be just right if they keep throwing it all out every six months for something new. I am having some serious problems figuring out how to start applications and whether buttons open new windows or switch to current ones. On the plus side, it hasn't broken anything major. Wireless just works.
bd 16y ago
When I updated Ubuntu in VirtualBox, I got X-Windows completely broken. This helped: "If you are testing Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat in VirtualBox, you may notice that guest additions are not working, it seems that the problem is the new xserver they put in Ubuntu 10.10, the modules are not build against this new version." sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1157-install-guest-addition-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-fix http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1157-install-guest-ad...

214 points by tzury 16y ago

cdr 16y ago

There appear to still be serious issues with both the proprietary Nvidia and ATI drivers with Xorg 1.9 - kind of a shame. If you have an older Nvidia card, or an ATI card plus certain monitors, you're not going to be able to use the good drivers with 10.10 for awhile.

paol 16y ago
Is that with the ubuntu supplied drivers or the nvidia ones? Everything is working well for me with the latest nvidia drivers (256.53) on a GTX 260 card.
- cdr 16y ago
  According to the release notes, nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 are the ones with the issue.
rgarcia 16y ago
i've run into this issue after upgrading--cpu usage is high and graphics rendering is slow. after disabling the proprietary nvidia driver everything went back to normal. there's a beta nvidia driver that claims to fix some of the problems, i'm trying it now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577997 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577997

jeffreyg 16y ago

released on 10/10/10. cool.

bergie 16y ago
Not only that, but also at 10:10 UTC

Kliment 16y ago

Is it just me, or are there no release notes?

rquirk 16y ago
It was linked to in the release email at least: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010
- Kliment 16y ago
  Thank you! It was missing on the page.
  - nailer 16y ago
    Makes sense - things like gconf and dsettings are fr developers, not end users. The main page has a what's new, I believe, which covers more common interests.
    - Kliment 16y ago
      Well, known issues with installation do belong on the page targeted at users, I think. At least as a link.

ubuntuftfw 16y ago

Torrents: 64 bit: http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64_iso http://burnbit.com/torrent/156840/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_amd64... 32 bit: http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_iso http://burnbit.com/torrent/156841/ubuntu_10_10_desktop_i386_... Please seed

mdaniel 16y ago
I'm not an expert in BitTorrent, but in my mental model, aren't you siphoning away seeders from the _official_ Ubuntu trackers by using burnbit? I can appreciate using burnbit for certain behemoth companies that don't normally publish via torrent, but since ubuntu.com actually offers them along-side the isos, this smells counterproductive.
- Freak2love 16y ago
  I think uTorrent does not even connect to web seeds unless there are low seeds/peers
- webignition 16y ago
  In this case yes. The torrent file from burnbit appears to list only the burnbit tracker. A torrent file can list multiple trackers. It would make more sense for burnbit to take the official torrent and add their tracker to the list, allowing a client to make use of the peers listed by their tracker and the official tracker. The offical torrent provides both IPv6 and IPv4 trackers, which is nice.
superos 16y ago
Official torrent downloads: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-downloa...
- pbhjpbhj 16y ago
  Getting [k]ubuntu upgrades is about the only thing I've used torrents for seriously - it always takes far far longer than a direct download from one of my nearest mirrors. Like 24hrs instead of 1. I'm not leeching I get lots of connections it just goes slow as molasses. Guess I'm doing it wrong but just in case others are getting slow downloads via torrent I'd really consider a direct download.

pedrokost 16y ago

I hoped they would manage to make my wireless card work wirelessly. They didn't :(

ciupicri 16y ago
I'm not the one that downvoted you, but I think that you could have at least mentioned the model of the wireless card, not to mention a `lspci -v' dump or a real bug report.
- pedrokost 16y ago
  The reason I didn't add any more info is because I don't use HN to fix my network problems. I have posted the question on ubuntuforums.org and I am still awaiting a reply.
  - mrdoob2 16y ago
    http://askubuntu.com/ http://askubuntu.com/

MisterWebz 16y ago

How can i update to the newest version from the 10.10 release candidate?

thristian 16y ago
System → Administration → Update Manager should do it, if you're using the GUI; if not, try the usual "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
- jdub 16y ago
  The correct way to upgrade Ubuntu from the command line is "do-release-upgrade" (which includes extra upgrading smarts that apt alone does not).
  - TorKlingberg 16y ago
    Why doesn't the apt-get man page mention this? It is getting rather difficult keeping track of what the current recommended way is.
  - lazyant 16y ago
    More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade , https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/installing-upgrading.html https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/installing-upgra...
  - thristian 16y ago
    We're talking about upgrading from the 10.10 release candidate to 10.10 final, right? That shouldn't require "do-release-upgrade", surely.
- SkyMarshal 16y ago
  Yes, avoid dist-upgrade, it apparently can break dependencies. Upgrade to a major version with %> sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
16y ago

codedivine 16y ago

Anyone going for Kubuntu?

eternauta3k 16y ago
I actually switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu just for the sake of change. Only thing I miss is split view in Nautilus, although it seems there are patches available.
- jdub 16y ago
  You'll be pleased to find that Nautilus in 10.10 has a split pane view. Just hit View > Extra Pane (or F3). :-)
  - sprout 16y ago
    10.04 here... split panes work great.
mbubb 16y ago
Actually installed Xubuntu on a netbook (old hp 2133).

mgunes 16y ago

The link is here the image download page, which doesn't provide much context. Release Announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-Octob... Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 Upgrade Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading Desktop Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop Server Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/server http://www.ubuntu.com/server Netbook Overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook

RexRollman 16y ago

I have a Lenovo Ideapad S10 which has been running 10.04 since April and I've been pretty happy with it. I imagine that I will install 10.10 on it tomorrow.

shaddi 16y ago
Not sure what the Ideapads use for wifi, but there is an issue with the iwlagn driver (what my Thinkpad X61 uses) that disables 802.11n modes. Not a problem if you're using not using 802.11n, but something to be aware of. Check the release notes for details.
- moxiemk1 16y ago
  The original S10 has an Atheros chip (non-N) I'll also be throwing this onto my OS-of-the-week S10 (I was trying to get Plan 9 running, but it wasn't having any of it)
  - RexRollman 16y ago
    I really like Plan 9. Too bad it never really took off.
- RexRollman 16y ago
  My IdeaPad S10 uses a Broadcom BCM4312.

lazyant 16y ago

I installed it from CD in a friend's PC. Couple of little complaints: he was confused by the installation screen showing that he didn't have the requirement of "2.6 GB of available drive space": http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TH7Lkl4Jd-I/AAAAAAAAByc/ttFY5lOV3cA/ubuntu-10.10-screenshot.png http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TH7Lkl4Jd-I/AAAAAAAAByc/tt... He thought this was because there was another OS in the drive and didn't know how to proceed (the "Forward" button was grayed out). I took a look at it, suspected no hard drive detected and that was it, the newly install HD had no power attached to it. I just wished (for the newbies' sake) that instead/besides the disk space requirement with an X there was a note saying that no HD was detected. The second issue is that even if I chose "yes, install proprietary stuff" the WiFi card wasn't working because of missing firmware (at least the message was right there when clicking on the network icon -strange up/down arrows btw-). It took me only a few minutes to figure out and find the firmware update submenu and solve the issue but they could have linked that in the wifi connection message; my friend (someone with no experience outside Windows) would have not solved this issue by himself.

pedrokost 16y ago
what/where is the firmware submenu? I have WIFI issues after fresh install too.
- superos 16y ago
  System | Administration | Additional Drivers

zacharypinter 16y ago

Clever that Ubuntu 10.10 is released on 10/10/10.

javanix 16y ago
That's how their version numbers work - 9.10 was released in October 09, 9.04 in April 09, etc.
- dekomote 16y ago
  i don't think that the case. The first number is the year and the second is the month.
  - djacobs 16y ago
    Isn't that what he was implying?
    - lzw 16y ago
      Yes, but in previous years, it was on the 30th of the month that the release happened. This year it was on the 10th of the month so 10.10 could be year.month or month.day. They broke with tradition slightly to celebrate the day.
zachrose 16y ago
I want to upvote this, but then it would go past 10 upvotes.
kijinbear 16y ago
> The Ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is... 42, and in its' purest form 101010. Source: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-Octob...

sudonim 16y ago

Ubuntu's Software Center == Apple's iTunes Store. Making it as easy is a huge opportunity for Ubuntu. Looking forward to giving it a shot.

jackolas 16y ago
Well if Apple actually used unified updates... But yes it's very nice compared to what it used to be. I feel comfortable having people use it now.

liljimmytables 16y ago

Boring, obvious advice from someone who's been using Kubuntu since Feisty: if it's your main desktop, don't upgrade now unless you have to. For the sake of a couple of weeks' waiting you stand a much better chance of avoiding any teething troubles, or at least being able to to find documentation for your problem. This is especially relevant if you use a laptop or unusual hardware. (For the record I've been hit with laptop wifi incompatibility (the Intel wireless driver got changed, config files didn't update) and software RAID in the GRUB 2 update.)

javanix 16y ago
For anyone unfamiliar with it, many wifi issues can be taken care of with a little research and the compat-wireless (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download) downloads. Very easy to patch in the latest drivers for your chipset.
SkyMarshal 16y ago
Second that. Unless there's something major you just can't live without, which there doesn't appear to be in the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, let the pawns go first.

tvon 16y ago

Unless I'm seeing some leftovers from the beta/rc, I think the default theme still ships with a nearly impossible to grab window border, which is somewhat infuriating.

dekomote 16y ago
Usually i use shiki themes and elementary from time to time. They all have the same issue. I think that's metacity perk and not theme related. Recently I became switched to LXDE (try it on High Performance PC - Mind blown) and i don't have that problem as openbox has nice borders and handles.
- paol 16y ago
  You can make borders as thick as you like. The "1px border" disease is a theme design problem. It wouldn't matter if bottom-right resize handles were standard, but as it is only a few windows have them.
  - NickPollard 16y ago
    Try holding down <Alt> and middle clicking anywhere near the window corner, I find that far faster than trying to grab any kind of corner or side, and I get frustrated when I have to use an OS (eg. Windows) that doesn't support this.
    - superos 16y ago
      I know that frustration. I catch myself trying to do that in Windows all the time.
paol 16y ago
No, you're seeing it correctly. I was of the (apparently minority) opinion that they had really dropped the ball with the new theme introduced in 10.04. That one release later still suffers from blatant UI screwups like that is really disappointing.

hristov 16y ago

I am surprised at how well their servers are handling this. I am using the standard method of updating from the update manager and I am getting over 1 Mbit/s speeds. So if you were waiting for the crowd to clear, no need to wait.

icco 16y ago
How long did your upgrade take?
- hristov 16y ago
  The download part was no longer than 30 min. I am not sure how long the entire upgrade took because I left my computer and the upgrade stopped at one part because it needed to ask me a question.
  - cdr 16y ago
    I hate that - I wish someone could come up with a way to either front-load or back-load the prompts that interrupt the install. The upgrade alone took 3 hours on my laptop, and that ballooned to 5+ from it getting hung up on prompts.
    - slug 16y ago
      There's a way to do that, but it's mostly useful for deploying a large amount of machines,ie, if you don't use something like cloning machines: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
  - cakeface 16y ago
    yes |
  - icco 16y ago
    Interesting. My entire upgrade took 52 minutes, and only had two prompts. Two more than I'd like, but two compared to the 20 someodd I used to get is great.

TorKlingberg 16y ago

I just installed 10.10 on my netbook, and the user interface has been completely redone... again. I am happy that Canonical are working so much on UI, but I wish they would stick to a basic layout for a while and improve it until it is solid and all the details are right. It will never be just right if they keep throwing it all out every six months for something new. I am having some serious problems figuring out how to start applications and whether buttons open new windows or switch to current ones. On the plus side, it hasn't broken anything major. Wireless just works.

bd 16y ago

When I updated Ubuntu in VirtualBox, I got X-Windows completely broken. This helped: "If you are testing Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat in VirtualBox, you may notice that guest additions are not working, it seems that the problem is the new xserver they put in Ubuntu 10.10, the modules are not build against this new version." sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1157-install-guest-addition-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-fix http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1157-install-guest-ad...