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Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

• walterbell 8y ago
  The Defcon book list ("peek behind the curtain" and "underground culture") is a good starting place, https://www.defcon.org/html/links/book-list.html https://www.defcon.org/html/links/book-list.html
  • sshine 8y ago
    All my recommendations happen to be mentioned on this list, so I'll mention them here: - Stealing the Network, a collection of short stories. One of those stories was written by Fyodor of nmap and is available online: http://insecure.org/stc/ http://insecure.org/stc/ -- this sort of works like a tutorial for nmap and networking security. :-D - Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson - Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson - Neuromancer by William Gibson
• GavinMcG 8y ago
  The Cuckoo's Egg, by Cliff Stoll.
  • zavulon 8y ago
    This. Cliff Stoll is better known for his other book, where he got a bunch of predictions about the internet wrong, but Cuckoo’s Nest is a lot better read. Based on a true story, how a few cent $ difference led him to discover a massive hack going on, and how he was chasing the hacker.
  • preya2k 8y ago
    Second this. Fantastic book about true events. If you like the story, there is also a movie which covers the same events as the book. The movie is called "23" and is available in German and English.
    • superice 8y ago
      I know the movie as 'The KGB, the computer, and me': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac
      • asragab 8y ago
        Thanks for this, just started watching it now!
    • e12e 8y ago
      Oh wow, didn't realize there was a book behind "23". BTW, there's a terrible American film with the same name - one wants: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0126765/ not this here rubbish: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0481369/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0481369/ (hm, really it was with Jim Carrie? Maybe there's yet another terrible version. Or maybe this was just that bad).
  • hestefisk 8y ago
    Second this.
  • 0x445442 8y ago
    Fantastic book!
  • tyu100 8y ago
    The OG of true crime hacking books.
  • edanm 8y ago
    Indeed a great book. And (tiny spoiler-alert): a small easter-egg (though not intended as such) for people on HN: the founders of HN/YC show up in the book, admittedly in a very minor capacity. Btw, I recently discovered that Cliff Stoll is one of the awesome guys who appears on the Numberphile YouTube channel, so if you watch that, know that it's him :)
    • JshWright 8y ago
      Including this one posted this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GYYerlQWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GYYerlQWs Any time the subject of Cliff Stoll comes up, I always comment that someday I want to be as excited about _something_ as Cliff Stoll is about _everything_.
      • burning_hamster 8y ago
        His TED talk is probably my all time favourite. https://www.ted.com/talks/clifford_stoll_on_everything https://www.ted.com/talks/clifford_stoll_on_everything
  • aptwebapps 8y ago
    My favorite bit was jangling his keys to induce noise in the line to delay the hacker long enough for a trace.
  • krueger71 8y ago
    Yep, this one is a great read!
• sanxiyn 8y ago
  I think you will enjoy Kingpin by Kevin Poulsen.
  • iamben 8y ago
    Seconded. Loved this.
  • sailfast 8y ago
    Came here to say this. Great book. Not a novel, but still worthy of a mention. It definitely reads like one with the pacing and writing.
• malaya_zemlya 8y ago
  "Fatal System Error" by Joseph Menn
• ovi256 8y ago
  Reamde, by Neal Stephenson. Yeah, the big daddy of cyberpunk ("Snowcrash") also wrote a contemporary technothriller set in organized cybercrime organizations.
  • madmax108 8y ago
    Heard very mixed reviews of Reamde. Could you please tell me what elements you liked of the book? It's been on my reading list for a while but the mixed reviews always lead to it being left for another day
    • mcrider 8y ago
      Its a fun book, and a good intro to Stephenson (it was my first book I read of his, and now I've read four others). But if you've read his other stuff first or are a more hardcore sci-fi nerd, its easy to think that its a little closer to a blockbuster thriller than science fiction.
    • anubisresources 8y ago
      Its very different from Stephenson's other novels. Its much more of a thriller with a few tech elements thrown in. I really enjoyed it, but don't go in expecting another cryptonomicon.
    • jillesvangurp 8y ago
      Disclaimer, I'm a big Neal Stephenson fan. Reamde, is a fast paced techno thriller. It's arguably one of his lesser novels but still a ton of fun IMHO. The premise of the book is that of an online game that is essentially similar to world of warcraft with the difference that the entire point of the game is the in game economy. This part of the book is pretty well developed and ties in nicely with his other novels that also deal with money, gold, crypto currencies, etc. The crisis in the game is when a group of enterprising chinese hackers deploy a virus that encrypts people's laptops via a bit of ransomware distributed via email. To unlock their computers people are to pay some of the in game gold in a particular area. All goes sideways through a set of rather unlikely coincidences. There are a lot of other elements being dragged into this including a fair bit of gun wielding by terrorists, russian mafia, and the protagonist and his somewhat libertarian family. This is is not the most innovative plot and it is ultimately a relatively one dimensional plot that is in places a bit cringeworthy. I still enjoyed this book and have read it multiple times. It's got plenty of side plots, detailed musings, and so on that are typical for Neal Stephenson. If you enjoy that kind of thing, this book is fine but it's no Anathem or Snow Crash.
• r3bl 8y ago
  Countdown to Zero Day by Kim Zetter. It talks about the Stuxnet and the story behind it, and I got the chance to learn some fairly interesting stuff in the meantime (like the complexity of building a nuclear bomb). I found it much more useful than the American Kingpin, which just mentions that Tor and Bitcoin offer anonymity online, but doesn't get anywhere even close to explaining either of the technologies that are crucial for the storyline. We Are Anonymous by Parmy Olson also made me feel kind of the same, but the writing wasn't quite as engaging as the Countdown to Zero Day was.
  • hectorr1 8y ago
    Sanger's Confront and Conceal has a great chapter on Stuxnet / Olympic Games as well.
• alfon 8y ago
  On the topic of Non-fiction cybercrime books, one that provides very good insight imho on the history of spam albeit a little hard to follow is "Spam Nation", by Brian Krebs
  • iooi 8y ago
    "Spam Kings" isn't bad either. A bit dated, but it's a good history of one of the earlier spam operations.
• EvanAnderson 8y ago
  You said "novels", so I'm assuming you're looking for fiction. If that's the case I enjoyed Jon Evans' "Swarm": http://m.feedbooks.com/userbook/24466/swarm http://m.feedbooks.com/userbook/24466/swarm
  • init-as 8y ago
    I just assumed that a lot of them would be novels. If you have any recommendations for real-life stuff I’d love that too.
• Randin 8y ago
  Try Daemon and Freedom™ by Daniel Suarez.
  • eps 8y ago
    Daemon was virtually unreadable. It's a hacker-themed fairtale for computer illiterate, basically. I had a non-techy friend borrow the book and they too couldn't finish it, because it was just way over acceptable believability limits even for them.
    • madmax108 8y ago
      Ohh man, for me it was EXACTLY the opposite. Daemon was one of the finest examples of a book in the cybercrime genre. It was one of those "Black Mirror" style entertainment: Take known tech and push it towards dystopia style stories. Daemon was was super-fun, and absolutely un-putdownable (Literally read it in a single sitting IIRC). Almost all the tech (Self driving cars, distributed systems, daemons that can self replicate (viruses), collaborative systems, a Darknet all exist in some form or the other today! Is it fantasy? Duh! Is it a fun read for someone who works building these exact systems fora living? Definitely!
      • anon-anon 8y ago
        Completely agree. Everything is possible in it. If there was indeed someone who had a far surpassed genius level of IQ and tech know how, and dedicated hours of their time to developing the stuff with an unlimited budget (which basically is what Matthew Sobol supposedly has) then I could easily understand how a lot of things in that book could become reality. Either way - a fun read and a good book to re-visit. One of the few that I read every few years or so...
        • pavel_lishin 8y ago
          Looking back on it now, I think the one thing that's really not plausible is the idea that someone could write a system that can anticipate anything that can happen. It was a little too Foundation/Psychohistory for me. But it was still a fantastic novel, I loved reading it, and will probably re-read it again and again.
• BlasDeLezo 8y ago
  Rick Dakan's "Geek Mafia" trilogy
• zarkov99 8y ago
  darknet is exciting and well grounded technically. also cyberstorm by same author.
• amingilani 8y ago
  Ghost in the Wire by Kevin Mitnick. I can't believe no one recommended this. The guy literally evaded the FBI using technology.
  • mulletbum 8y ago
    And I don't know if someone helped him write the book, but the story is amazingly good. It is exactly what you look for in a hacking story, someone outwitting people combined will some phone phreaking. Very good book, I would recommend.
    • thro_awayz_days 8y ago
      Can't upvote this comment enough. Incredible story.
  • johnnycarcin 8y ago
    Yes! When I was a kid I had heard his story a bit but this book was amazing and really highlighted just how far someone could go with regards to "owning" systems.
  • sailfast 8y ago
    Second this, and also recommend The Art of Deception which focuses on a combination of social engineering attacks with technology vectors. Not a novel as it's really about actual security, but still worth a note.
  • LiamPa 8y ago
    +1 has to be the most ‘hackernews’ book I have read / still reading (started yesterday)
• Faaak 8y ago
  Citing Wikipedia: "Blackout: Tomorrow Will Be Too Late" is a disaster thriller book by the Austrian author Marc Elsberg, described by Penguin Books as "a 21st-century high-concept disaster thriller". The novel is about a European power outage due to a cyberattack. For realism the book is written on the basis of interviews with intelligence and computer security officials.
  • trampi 8y ago
    I read it some weeks ago and can definitely recommend it. It was a departing gift from my university, a very fitting one for computer science students if you ask me.
• pjc50 8y ago
  Bruce Sterling's The Hacker Crackdown (nonfiction, now freeware). Lots of important early hacker history and run-ins with the authorities, plus the origin story of the EFF.
• aaron695 8y ago
  Older, but easy reads - The Hacker Crackdown Bruce Sterling 1992 (freeware) Underground: Tales of Hacking, Madness and Obsession on the Electronic Frontier Suelette Dreyfus 1997 (Free version available)
• beaconstudios 8y ago
  if you like books that combine fiction and technical detail, I can thoroughly recommend the "stealing the network" series. It has an intriguing overarching plot and the details are all accurate and technical-minded - the best comparison I can give is it's like "The Martian" but for cybersecurity.
• DownGoat 8y ago
  Spam Nation by Brian Krebs is excellent. It delves deep into the email spam scene, and covers some big events and the people around it. He talks to users which buy stuff they are advertised in spam emails, and looks into the quality of the products advertised (are the viagra pills safe?). The book is not very technical, and he never digs deeper into the details than what is necessary.
• zn44 8y ago
  Kill Process by William Hertling
  • filleokus 8y ago
    The only one I've read in this genre. It was quite enjoyable, and if my memory is correct quite technically plausible. Interesting themes about tech gigants and their influence/power, and some tragic stuff about wife/women abuse.
• dsr_ 8y ago
  We Were Gods, by Alex Feinman. Among other things, it contains an amazing scene describing an attack on a race condition from inside a fantasy game's magic system. Here's part of it: Giggling a little from the alcohol, the four points began the slow juggling routine I'd sent them; just a simple ball passing, in rhythm. Pass, pass, pass. Throw and catch in the same instant; the balls went round and round until all four were landing in palms at the same time, four little smacks merging into one sound. Their avatars were better at this than they were. After a moment I threw another ball in, then another, until there were eight in the circle: four in the air, four in the hand. Faster and faster they went round, until there were little streaks of light behind them, until the streaks almost formed a complete, rippling circle. Around us the world leaned in, currents of energy creating a field of magic potential. Rhythmic motion always attracted the attention of the underlying world routines as they struggled to incorporate it into the ebbs and flows of the wind and water; a vortex here, at one of the two hearts of the world, drew a lot of processing power. And each point of the cross was a magic-using engine; those strands of energy consumed a surprising amount of resources. But the real trick was the synchronization: slight imperfections in the coding routines for distribution and rationing of magical energy made them susceptible to a timing attack. It was a matter of chance, though; each time the circle tossed and caught, quanta of energy were requested at nearly-identical times. Sooner or later the system would try to service two at once and--ah. One of the balls vanished momentarily, lost to accounting for a brief instant before the system found it again. It left a tiny kink in the circle of light as it passed: an opening, into the collection routines. This was what my watch-spell was waiting for: a chance to insert my own instructions into the information transmission stream: instructions that said 'open', 'open'. https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/396337 https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/396337
• ngoldbaum 8y ago
  “git commit murder” is a story in the style of a detective novel set at a BSD convention. Not sure if it counts as “cybercrime” because it’s about a murder but of course the motive and circumstances only make sense in terms of the internal politics of a fictional BSD distribution. It’s also a really authentic description of what it’s like to be at a technical conference as a newcomer where you don’t know anyone.
• gm-conspiracy 8y ago
  Cory Doctorow's Little Brother. I could not put it down, and read it in one sitting.
  • bougiefever 8y ago
    This is truly an amazing read. I also enjoyed this book immensely. It is required reading for my teenage children.
  • friesen 8y ago
    The sequel, Homeland, is also pretty great.
  • dhtns 8y ago
    In the spirit of the fact that a few of these book suggestions have been made available online for free, I feel obligated to point out that Cory Doctorow has chosen to make both Little Brother and Homeland (the sequel to Little Brother, mentioned by another commenter) available in a few different formats on his website. [1] [2] [1] https://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ https://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ [2] https://craphound.com/homeland/download/ https://craphound.com/homeland/download/
• terminalcommand 8y ago
  Mark Russinovich's Jeff Aiken Trilogy. If you're looking for a quality bestseller similar to Dan Brown books. Zero day, Trojan Horse and Rogue Code are all excellent novels. Some common themes include computer virus epidemics, cyber armies, cyber warfare, dangers of an overnetworked but undersecured society
  • nebulous1 8y ago
    I only read Zero Day and I thought it was pretty bad. Obviously he's got much better tech credentials than most authors, and I felt he probably should have gone for a more niche tech-literate market than just write tech-oriented bad fiction. Just looking now, his later novels seemed to get slightly better goodreads reviews so perhaps his writing got a little better.
  • tallanvor 8y ago
    They're not great, but they're more or less as entertaining as the Dan Brown books (which also wouldn't be in my list of great literature).
  • actf 8y ago
    Second this suggestion. As others have noted his books probably aren't going to win any literary awards, but they are fun entertaining reads. There are some similarities in subject matter to some of Dan Brown's books, but Russinovich is a former Microsoft employee (and iirc he wrote the sys intervals suite of tools) so his are much more technically detailed, and accurate then what you would find in Dan Brown.
• modernerd 8y ago
  Lock In by John Scalzi. https://www.tor.com/2014/05/21/lock-in-john-scalzi-excerpt-chapter-1/ https://www.tor.com/2014/05/21/lock-in-john-scalzi-excerpt-c... Wil Wheaton's narration is great too. I listened to the audiobook and think about it a lot. It's a techno whodunit — hacking and cracking neural dust/lace, remotely renting and operating physical bodies and committing crimes while “occupying” them, and bio/techno ethics all play a role. In Scalzi's future, locked-in patients receive so much government funding to improve their lives that they gain more abilities and advantages than those who aren't “locked in”, which makes for an interesting inversion.
  • sdoering 8y ago
    I would throw in the sequel "Head on". Same universe - just some time later. The audiobook is also narrated by Wil Wheaton. And it is great as always. Offtopic. I would blindly recommend all books in the combination Wheaton narrating Scalzi. But esp. "The Collapsing Empire" (I can't wait for the next part to be released in October).
  • dwyerm 8y ago
    It feels wrong to recommend a book I haven't read yet, but Chuck Wendig's "Zeroes" might be a good book to pair with Scalzi. I expect from his other books and the reviews that this is going to be more of an adventure book than any hard-computer-science... But, again, that might be what you're looking for. On a similar note, its been a while since I've read them, but I rather enjoyed James Strickland's books, Looking Glass and Irreconcilable Differences. Part of that might be because there's a part where he explains IPV4 addressing, and the example he uses happens to be the Class-B where I grew up. It was a little like seeing your house in the background of a movie. I also sort of enjoyed Rick Dakan's "Geek Mafia", but that appears to have fallen off the planet; only the sequels are on Amazon right now...
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• tribeofone 8y ago
  Halting State by Charlie Stross
  • spacehunt 8y ago
    And also its sequel Rule 34.
  • kbob 8y ago
    And its sequel, Rule 34.
  • fencepost 8y ago
    As others have said, also its sequel Rule 34. It's been a while since I read these, but I don't recall anything in there that jumped out at me as "you can't get there from here." There was originally supposed to be a third novel in this series, but Stross cancelled it[0] after Edward Snowden. "Halting State" wasn't intended to be predictive when I started writing it in 2006. Trouble is, about the only parts that haven't happened yet are Scottish Independence and the use of actual quantum computers for cracking public key encryption (and there's a big fat question mark over the latter—what else are the NSA up to?). I'm throwing in the towel. I probably will write another near-future Scottish police procedural by and by, but it won't be a sequel to the first two except in the loosest sense. The science fictional universe of "Halting State" and "Rule 34" is teetering on the edge of turning into reality. Meanwhile, the financial crisis of 2007 forced me back to the drawing board for "Rule 34"; the Snowden revelations have systematically trashed all my ideas for the third book. [0] http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/psa-why-there-wont-be-a-third-.html http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/psa-why-...
• Dowwie 8y ago
  "Daemon" or "Kill Decision" by Daniel Suarez "Snow Crash" by Neil Stephenson
  • bovermyer 8y ago
    I'll second Daemon. It's a really good novel.
    • wpietri 8y ago
      Agreed. For my tastes, a lot of tech thrillers are a little too "and then magic happens" when it comes to the tech details. Daemon's rich detail in this regard was appealing to me.
    • hmhrex 8y ago
      If you read Daemon, you really need to read FreedmonTM. It's a direct sequel, and almost has a hopeful vision of the future where Daemon has a dismal vision.
      • bovermyer 8y ago
        I've wondered about whether there was a sequel, given how Daemon ends.
        • hmhrex 8y ago
          Honestly, I feel like the story is incomplete without the sequel. It made the whole idea even better.
  • pavel_lishin 8y ago
    I didn't like Kill Decision; the extrapolated premise from "X occurs in nature" to "let's harness it with technology" was just a hair too ridiculous for me.
• jim_lawless 8y ago
  Out of the Inner Circle (1985) - the autobiographical true story of "The Cracker" Bill Landreth.
• divan 8y ago
  "Stealing the network" series by Ryan Russel is awesome. - Stealing the Network: How to Own the Box - Stealing the Network: How to Own a Continent - Stealing the Network: How to Own an Identity - Stealing the Network: How to Own a Shadow
  • johnymontana 8y ago
    Yes! Came here to recommend these. An insane level of technical detail (for suspense novel format) but still maintains a super entertaining storyline as well.
  • e12e 8y ago
    Came here to make sure someone mentioned these. Might not qualify as great fiction imnho - but the technical detail more than makes up for it. And the books are entertaining. I see people's mentioned Stephenson's "Cryptonomicon" - while I loved "diamond age" and like "snowcrash" - I much prefer Singh's "the codebook" on a similar theme. Thrilling non-fiction. On the more fiction side, I enjoyed Bruce Sterling's "The Zenith Angle" a lot. And second the recommendations for Mitnick's books - both the autobiography "ghost in the wires" and the more free form "made up examples" in "the art of deception" (like many of the stories in the stealing the network books, "inspired" by true events...). Other than that there's of course: https://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ https://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/ (and to a lesser extent "homeland"). And others mentioned the non-fiction book detailing operation sun devil: "THE HACKER CRACKDOWN Law and Disorder on the Electronic Frontier", Bruce Sterling http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/101 http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/101 [ed: I think maybe "Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge deserves a mention too. And maybe "speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon]
  • danesparza 8y ago
    Wait, I'm confused. Are these fiction or not?
• harel 8y ago
  Two books come to mind (while excluding the obvious absolute classics like Neuromancer (William Gibson) and Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson): "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson. It goes from WW2 to modern time. "Cyberpunk" by Katie Hafner - Read it aeons ago so working from long term memory. 3 real world stories of famous hackers and their "crimes" (Kevin Mitnick, Pengo, Robert Morris).
  • power 8y ago
    The last being one of the founders of ycombinator
    • harel 8y ago
      Didn't know that...
  • jcsnv 8y ago
    I recently read Ghost in the Wires by Kevin Mitnick and it was fantastic! He talks about his journey and evasion of the FBI while he was on the run
    • harel 8y ago
      Also check out his "Art of ..." books (art of deception, illusion etc.). Chronicles and details of various cyber crimes. Very interesting books.
• thro_awayz_days 8y ago
  Ghost in the Wires - Kevin Mitnick
• Insanity 8y ago
  The blue nowhere is one that I hugely enjoyed. Also Kevin Mitnick's "ghost in the wire". I read that one after kingpin and enjoyed it more, but it is in a similar trend :)
• serhadiletir 8y ago
  Future Crimes by Marc Goodman a good book from Goodman
• GuB-42 8y ago
  Takedown by Tsutomo Shimomura That's the story of how Kevin Mitnick got caught. Very controversial so I can't say it's good. I still enjoyed it back then. Note that the question is about novels, and I think it is how you should read the book. I seriously doubt its credibility when it comes to facts.
  • dijit 8y ago
    I will not downvote (as I don't agree that a downvote should be a disagreement, and you /are/ posting in earnest of discussion) however I can't avoid at least commenting on the fact that this is a terrible novel. It's fact based, which is nice, however Tsutomo talks significantly more about food than Kevin in this book. Unendingly boring and light on details. If I could get that week of my life back I would.
  • paulie_a 8y ago
    I never understood the fame of mitnick. He was a loser and not very talented. He is the equivalent of a Kardashian for fame Kevin Paulson at least had some actual skills.
    • nbabitskiy 8y ago
      Read his book, if you haven't yet. He's honest, likable guy, always curious (and hungry) to live. He wouldn't have scored high in a coding competition, but it makes his accomplishments only more impressive. Being "talented" and "winning" looks like a railroad track, interesting life is worth more imho
      • paulie_a 8y ago
        I've read it. I believe he smashed the detective in the face with a garbage can lid to escape. Not exactly very likeable. Also he literally lied to a ton of people to gain access to systems. So not very honest
        • nbabitskiy 8y ago
• pags 8y ago
  Littman's books on Mitnick and Poulsen.
• KlaymenDK 8y ago
  I would recommend "Underground", a text-only e-book about (perhaps even by?) Kevin Mitnick, how the entire hacker scene got started, and through the cat-and-mouse game that led to Mitnick's eventual arrest. Unfortunately, I cannot find a link to this work; although I did find uncountable similar books and movies on the topic. Perhaps this will suffice as a teaser? "Catching Kevin" at Wired: https://www.wired.com/1996/02/catching/ https://www.wired.com/1996/02/catching/
  • severine 8y ago
    This? http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=5A8FE70517FD734D720A183A24ABBF9D http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=5A8FE70517FD734D720... Title: Underground: Tales of Hacking, Madness, and Obsession on the Electronic Frontier Author(s): Suelette Dreyfuss Publisher: Mandarin Australia Year: 1997 ISBN: 9781863305952, 1863305955 >> This book provides a great overview of a number of computer intrusion incidents and links them throught not only the technical nature of the activity but the persons behind them. UNDERGROUND provides an excellent overview of intrustion activities focusing on the UK, Australia, and the United States. It covers the late 80's to the early nineties with stories on incidents such as the WANK Worm outbreak and 8lgm's activities. The stand out attribute of this book is that it examines what happened to the intruders after their activity rather than focusing on the activity itself. It also examines the interrelationships between intruders worldwide giving some insight into how the culture allows for several key persons to be involved in or have siginficant knowledge of many different activities. A must have to include in your library along with other staples such as Cuckoo's Egg, Masters of Deception, Fugitive Game, and Hacker Crackdown. However, like the other books noted, there are apt to be a few points that persons will take exception too with regard to accuracy.
  • klez 8y ago
    Is this the "underground" book by Assange before he became WikiLeaks' face?
  • dhtns 8y ago
    I'm not sure which specific Kevin Mitnick book you're actually referring to or looking for but the book "Underground" is actually by Suelette Dreyfus and is about the nascent hacker/cracker subculture of the late '80s and early '90s. It was researched by/with Julian Assange (not written by him as another commenter has stated) who is known in the book as "Mendax". [1] Interestingly, the book was released for free online in 2001, at the suggestion of Julian Assange, and the author credits this online release for expanding both the quantity and range of different people that would end up reading the book. [2] The book can be read online (in HTML) at [2] or various ebook formats can be downloaded from Project Gutenberg at [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_(Dreyfus_book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_(Dreyfus_book) [2] https://suelette.home.xs4all.nl/underground/justin/preface.html https://suelette.home.xs4all.nl/underground/justin/preface.h... [3] https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4686 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4686
• wpietri 8y ago
  This isn't quite in the category, but John Carreyrou's nonfiction book "Bad Blood", which covered the rise and fall of Theranos, satisfied me in a similar way. There's plenty of crime, although it's really about pretending to be high-tech rather than actually being high tech. For people in tech who love a good fraud story, I highly recommend it.
  • brk 8y ago
    Just finished this one and really enjoyed it. I will say, it would have been infuriating to read if I didn't already know the story ended with her takedown.
    • jonwinstanley 8y ago
      Spoiler alert?
      • TallGuyShort 8y ago
        It's a true story, and one that's discussed in HN comments ad nauseum.
      • dmix 8y ago
        Only if you have managed to ignore every major story about Theranos/Elizabeth for the last couple years...
  • BlackjackCF 8y ago
    Also in the nonfiction realm - Countdown to Zero Day: Stuxnet and the Launch of the World's First Digital Weapon was really good. Ended up reading the entire thing in one go on an airplane.
  • asragab 8y ago
    100% agree. Cyber true-crime, maybe? The toxicity of that place, of her, of Sunny! That guy seems like a real piece of work. I was struck by how amazingly well connected she was, collecting former and current high ranking government officials and industry titans. For me the highlight was the surreal depiction of that birthday party with Kissinger.
• dredmorbius 8y ago
  Not yet published, but I've high hopes for The Mueller Report.
• metaodi 8y ago
  I want to add "The Watchmen" by Jonathan Littman. It's the story of Kevin Poulsen. It's very well written and I personally liked it better than all the Mitnick stories, but they are certainly comparable. It's been a while since I've last read it, but I think about it with a bit of nostalgia, as there are all those phone phreaking and dumpster diving stories in it, when nobody cared about security.
• Dnguyen 8y ago
  Darknet by Matthew Mather About an AI entity taking over the financial market and buying its way into the political system.
• suff 8y ago
  The Cuckoo's Egg true story
• cosmolev 8y ago
  Not a novel, but super interesting story about how the Feds caught Russian Mega-Carder Roman Seleznev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Chp12sEnWk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Chp12sEnWk
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• ishanjain28 8y ago
  Digital Fortress by Dan Brown. I read it 5 years ago. Recommend it
• sateesh 8y ago
  "Hard-boiled Wonderland and end of the world" by Murakami. Not exactly a cybercrime novel. But I find the novel to be resonant with SF/cyberpunk subculture and an engrossing read too.
• solotechno 8y ago
  Similar title, different book: Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground by Kevin Poulsen ISBN-978-0307588692 The story of how credit card hacker Max Butler was caught by the FBI.
  • stef25 8y ago
    Late reply to say I immensely enjoyed this book. Highly recommended.
• pavanred 8y ago
  Ghost in the wires by Kevin Mitnick.
• mamcx 8y ago
  Not a book, but Person of Interest is a very good serial about cyber stuff & IA. Plus, more of the thing the team do is cyber-crime or gray-hacking.
• jlc 8y ago
  We all know that novels are by definition fiction, right?
• vectorEQ 8y ago
  not really a cybercrime novel, but really interesting for people in that business i'd say. Spy Catcher. That is written by someone in high position of MI:5 and their first 'science' officer. a lot of interesting information about spying which later really kickstarted cyber espionage / crime in a way...
  • lb1lf 8y ago
    ...and in a related vein, anyone with a hacker mindset ought to check out R.V. Jones’ ‘Most Secret War’; Jones was the UK senior scientific adviser during WW2 and the book reads like an endless string of anecdotes about one-upping the Germans. I guess tricking early IFF and radionavigation systems could be considered cyber crime - today, at least, he’d get the DMCA thrown at him for his trouble. :)
• epx 8y ago
  Terminal Compromise
• perlgeek 8y ago
  If cybercrime interests you, you might like the "Malicious Life" podcast: http://malicious.life/ http://malicious.life/ Not a novel though.
• JoelMcCracken 8y ago
  Recently I enjoyed https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Numbers-Cryptocurrency-Bill-Laboon/dp/1981526730/ https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Numbers-Cryptocurrency-Bill-... Basically a novel about a couple of college students who find some lost bitcoin in the near future, and the drama that ensues. I thought the book was super interesting.
• jonbaer 8y ago
  The Quantum Spy by David Ignatius
• dhtns 8y ago
  "The Right to Read" by Richard Stallman[1] is certainly not a novel, but it is a short bit of fiction about cybercrime (or rather, what would happen if certain day-to-day developer activities were made criminal) and is certainly worth the <20 minutes that it takes to read. I seem to recall that it received a bit of hysterical "oh that could never happen" reaction when it was released but I can't seem to find a source for that recollection. It may have mostly been a reaction that was generated by the somewhat emotive backlash that tends to appear whenever Stallman makes a statement about "freedom" though, and the story certainly is allegorical, so anyone who disagreed with him may have posted about it online and skewed the discussion in that direction. I can't recall much about the specific reaction at the time (it was more than 10 years ago now) though so much of the above is really just poorly-informed speculation on my part. It is, unfortunately, disappointingly prescient and it's something that I think everyone working in the tech industry should read, regardless of whether they think they agree with RMS's views on software freedom and intellectual property. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html Edit: I just re-read it and my initial estimate of "<20 minutes" was way off. I had forgotten just how short the story actually was, so perhaps my recollection about the reaction to the allegory isn't entirely accurate either. Nonetheless, I'm leaving this comment here as witness to the fallibility of my memory.
• beat 8y ago
  In a hard SF rather than contemporary context, A Deepness in the Sky, by Vernor Vinge, is an absolute delight (and a Hugo winner for best novel). Vinge was a mathematics and computer science professor, and very much knows what he's talking about. Part of the fun is that, on a 5000 year old spaceship set arbitrarily far in our future, long past the end of Moore's Law, all the systems are still running Unix. And one of the jobs on board is "Programmer-Archeologist", digging through generations of code to try to find useful bits from the past. But story-wise, there's some outstanding hacking ideas going.
  • etrautmann 8y ago
    I found the first 20% hard to get through, but after that, the book was one of my favorites of all time. The compelling technical aspects combined with quality storytelling made the book extremely worthwhile.
  • munin 8y ago
    Same author wrote _True Names_, which pre-dates the internet and yet nails a bunch of internet crime concepts (it's not about black ICE it's about someone doxing you, etc). Some sci-fi authors had a vision of the future, Vinge went on a 3 month vacation to the future.
  • Flenser 8y ago
    A more cybercrime themed Vinge short story would be True Names. It's out of print AFAIK but you can find it online.
• bb2018 8y ago
  Black Edge is on one the largest insider trading cases ever prosecuted. There was no real hacking or advanced cyber crime (maybe just some social engineering) but was an interesting case of how some bad hedge funds operate. There are some great books on this thread! I've read a bunch of them and going to come back for more.
• jnsaff2 8y ago
  Future Crimes a non-fiction about cybercrime of past and future http://www.futurecrimesbook.com http://www.futurecrimesbook.com
• adamzochowski 8y ago
  Marcin Przybylek wrote a series of books called "Gamedec". The first book is a collection of short stories. Detective crime stories all involving games. Permadeth. Pvp. Hacks and cheats. Kidnappings. Augmentations. Etc. The second book is still much a detective story but it is now one longer book, not a collection of stories. Afterwards gamedec series changes style and pace, still okay but no longer detective work.
• paultownsend 8y ago
  "Masters of Deception: The Gang That Ruled Cyberspace" is a true crime story covering the late 80s/early 90s era of hacking in the US, and a conflict[0] between two prominent hacker groups of the time - LOD[1] and MOD[2] - which mostly consisted of smart teenage kids who were just obsessed with computers and telephone networks. It's unquestionably one of my favourite books. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hacker_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hacker_War [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Doom_(hacking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Doom_(hacking) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Deception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Deception
• EamonnMR 8y ago
  Exploding The Phone covers phone phreaking and the phone company investigations into it.
• bhance 8y ago
  The Atavist's "Mastermind" series re: Paul Le Roux - https://magazine.atavist.com/the-mastermind https://magazine.atavist.com/the-mastermind
• raffleslodge 8y ago
  Daemon by Daniel Suarez
• mordant 8y ago
  OP asked about novels. Here are a few excellent novels in this genre which I highly recommend: Soda Pop Solider by Nick Cole Ctrl-Alt-Revolt by Nick Cole Glasshouse by Charles Stross Second the Vernor Vinge recommendations, and the Neal Stephenson and William Gibson Sprawl Trilogy recommendations. Gibson's The Peripheral, as well as Pattern Recognition, Zero History, and Spook Country all apply, as well. Same for his Idoru, Virtual Light, and All Tomorrow's Parties. Finally, Gibson and Sterling's The Difference Engine - the first and, so far, best steampunk novel - also qualifies, given the storyline.
• Flenser 8y ago
  Computer Crimes and Capers Edited by Isaac Asimov, Martin H. Greenberg & Charles G. Waugh Publication date 1983 Table of Contents: Introduction -- crime up to date Isaac Asimov DARL I LUV U Joe Gores An end of spinach Stan Dryer Computers don't argue Gordon R. Dickson Goldbrick Edward Wellen Computer cops Edward D. Hoch Sam Hall Poul Anderson Spanner in the works J.T. McIntosh While-you-wait Edward Wellen Getting across Robert Silverberg All the troubles of the world Isaac Asimov Borrow for 14 days on Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/computercrimesca00asim https://archive.org/details/computercrimesca00asim
• bigboris 8y ago
  The Gibson Vaughn series by Matthew FitzSimmons. It isn't purely cybercrime but the protagonist is a hacker. As a cybersec pro who runs bug bounty programs and red teams, I felt all of the tech was on point without taking away from the stories.