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Maybe Defcon should just go somewhere else next year.

by AndyMcConachie 8y ago

copperx 8y ago
DEFCON has always been in Las Vegas. That would be a difficult change.
- microcolonel 8y ago
  Maybe they could do it CCC-style, somewhere more "wild". It could make it more expensive (and involved) to be there unless somebody is willing to offer some form of lodging. That would also change things, one of the nice things about going to DEFCON is being able to stroll off premises to a bar or what have you, being able to arrive by cab and get everywhere you're needed by monorail.
  - rsynnott 8y ago
    > That would also change things, one of the nice things about going to DEFCON is being able to stroll off premises to a bar or what have you, being able to arrive by cab and get everywhere you're needed by monorail. You can more or less do this at CCC, too. The Hamburg convention centre was quite central, and the Leipzig one has a regular all-night tram service to the central train station (or did last year, anyway). I'm sure there are some large well-located convention centres in the US that could be used.
    - namibj 8y ago
      Also, CCC event management was given discretion in handling any situations short of maybe cases where they did not fix a problem. This led to a surprising calmness inside, due to the mutual understanding.
- CosmicShadow 8y ago
  I know nobody reads anything anymore, so people might book and then fail to realize it's somewhere else, because everyone, especially detailed oriented hackers are lazy morons thanks to the Internet, and don't discuss things amoung each other in response to privacy violations and how to try and fix it next time around... As I was reading this my wife was actually just looking at a craftshow event announced as a FB event where the first sentence literally said the location and someone commented "Where is this show being held".
- zaarn 8y ago
  "In January of 2018, the DEF CON China [Beta] event was announced. The conference will be held May 11-13, 2018 in Beijing, and it marks DEF CON's first conference outside the United States."
  - betterunix2 8y ago
    ...because the Chinese security people will definitely respect the privacy rights of DEF CON attendees.
    - zaarn 8y ago
      From what I can see in this article, they respect the privacy of DEFCON attendees more than the US.

Maybe Defcon should just go somewhere else next year.

copperx 8y ago

DEFCON has always been in Las Vegas. That would be a difficult change.

microcolonel 8y ago
Maybe they could do it CCC-style, somewhere more "wild". It could make it more expensive (and involved) to be there unless somebody is willing to offer some form of lodging. That would also change things, one of the nice things about going to DEFCON is being able to stroll off premises to a bar or what have you, being able to arrive by cab and get everywhere you're needed by monorail.
- rsynnott 8y ago
  > That would also change things, one of the nice things about going to DEFCON is being able to stroll off premises to a bar or what have you, being able to arrive by cab and get everywhere you're needed by monorail. You can more or less do this at CCC, too. The Hamburg convention centre was quite central, and the Leipzig one has a regular all-night tram service to the central train station (or did last year, anyway). I'm sure there are some large well-located convention centres in the US that could be used.
  - namibj 8y ago
    Also, CCC event management was given discretion in handling any situations short of maybe cases where they did not fix a problem. This led to a surprising calmness inside, due to the mutual understanding.
CosmicShadow 8y ago
I know nobody reads anything anymore, so people might book and then fail to realize it's somewhere else, because everyone, especially detailed oriented hackers are lazy morons thanks to the Internet, and don't discuss things amoung each other in response to privacy violations and how to try and fix it next time around... As I was reading this my wife was actually just looking at a craftshow event announced as a FB event where the first sentence literally said the location and someone commented "Where is this show being held".
zaarn 8y ago
"In January of 2018, the DEF CON China [Beta] event was announced. The conference will be held May 11-13, 2018 in Beijing, and it marks DEF CON's first conference outside the United States."
- betterunix2 8y ago
  ...because the Chinese security people will definitely respect the privacy rights of DEF CON attendees.
  - zaarn 8y ago
    From what I can see in this article, they respect the privacy of DEFCON attendees more than the US.