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This was all part of the horror started by Mao, resulting in 45 to 100 million deaths. They forcibly sterilized women against their will. They encouraged mass
by tomohawk 8y ago
This was all part of the horror started by Mao, resulting in 45 to 100 million deaths.
They forcibly sterilized women against their will. They encouraged mass abortions and infanticide. They turned neighbors against each other. They separated couples against their will.
Some success.
- saagarjha 8y agoDidn’t most of the deaths come from famine, not the one child policy?
- tomohawk 8y agoThey were both caused by the same inhuman ideology enforced by a madman.
- edge17 8y agoChina's one child policy is from the 1980's. Mao was out of power and dead by that point.
- tomohawk 8y agoMy mistake. The guys following Mao were completely different - not following the same ideology at all.
- tomjakubowski 8y agoUh, you're being sarcastic but that is true. Deng Xiaoping is about as close to Mao ideologically as Trump is to Obama. The revisionists and/or reformers survived the cultural revolution and won the power struggle after Mao's death.
- sidlls 8y agoTrump is actually quite close to Obama in ideology. They employ different methods in service to basically the same masters.
- mhneu 8y agoTrump is closer to Mao than he is Obama - in Trump's corruption, attacks on the media, attacks on the educated and intellectuals, attacks on minorities, boosting of racial nationalism, and attempts to steal tax dollars and profit off his leadership role. The parties in the US are wildly different - one party is the party of billionaires, and you can tell because they pursue tax cuts for the very rich and cutting the social safety net for everyone else.
- tomohawk 8y agoPretty low bar. "Hey, Deng is better than this guy who killed millions!" Let's check in on how these "reformers" are doing, shall we? http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/china-s-xinjiang-province-a-surveillance-state-unlike-any-the-world-has-ever-seen-a-1220174.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/china-s-xinjiang-p... Sounds like paradise.
- Leary 8y agoI think the reason people down-voted you was because you attributed many perceived policy faults of the Chinese Communist Party over many decades to Mao himself. Rather, a careful analysis of history would show that there's profound difference in how each generation of CCP leader ruled the country, apart from the generalizations one could make about communist ideology as a whole.
- tomohawk 8y agoAnd yet, they still put the image of a mass murderer on their currency. Can you imagine the EU putting Hitler on currency? That says a lot.
- dang 8y ago
- Pica_soO 8y agoAny good government system must endure that onslaught of madman, must contain them when they come to power and allow for other madman to reduce them to ashes. Its not easy to build these right.
- edge17 8y agoYes, and the famine was due to Mao's farming policies, Deep plowing, etc. It was also in the 1950's and 60's (not 1985), and the generally accepted death count is 15-30 million, not 100 million. Lot's of misinformation in the parent comments
- tomohawk 8y agoNot even close. Here's one for 77 million. Estimates start at 45 million and go up from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_by_communist_regimes#People's_Republic_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_by_communist_reg...
- parrellel 8y agoYes, and that number just keeps getting adjusted downward doesn't it.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoBy the Chinese government, yes. Not by everyone else. In truth, we will never really know how bad it was because China was closed off back then. First hand accounts only tell of absolute death and misery.
- parrellel 8y agoHave you ever seen a travel-log through rural china, there's a broadcast channel (MHz TV) here in MD that plays a lot of them and the shear physical evidence of famine written on the bodies of people is awful. All of it is, of course, surrounded by narration about the current plenty that exists, which makes it worse somehow.