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Phoenix. Tons of transplants from SF have moved here already, ASU is nearby, Sky Harbor has tons of flights going to all of the tech hubs in the US, cost of liv

Phoenix. Tons of transplants from SF have moved here already, ASU is nearby, Sky Harbor has tons of flights going to all of the tech hubs in the US, cost of living is affordable and there's a decent amount to do here as well. We have a tech scene, but I wouldn't consider us a big hub at the moment. Most companies just have support or administrative staff here.

jtreminio 8y ago
I was just in Phoenix last week after visiting the Grand Canyon. I can't imagine _why_ someone would move from the 70F of SF to the 115F of Phoenix. Even at midnight it's still over 90*F. This coming from someone who lives in DFW.
- geggam 8y ago
  Because that is 3 months of the year. The other 9 are perfect weather. Essentially we don't have to shovel snow during our hibernation season
  - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona#Climate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona#Climate 5 months out of the year the mean is above 80F.
    - godot 8y ago
      Not sure why there is an assumption that everybody likes 68F with miserable fog. Some people actually like 80-90F temperature. I do. 90+ is too hot sure, and I get that PHX is 100+ for 3 months. I like to be able to walk outside in a tshirt at night, instead of wearing a down jacket. I live in the Bay area and it's far from perfect weather. I can only live in the East Bay where there's actually summer temperature (80+F outside in the day time now and I love it). Living in SF would be pure misery to me. I would totally consider moving to PHX, but I first have to convince the wife. :)
    - ohjeez 8y ago
      I'll take 90 degrees with low humidity over 80 degrees and muggy _any_ day of the week.
- aaronbrethorst 8y ago
  Because land is cheap? Not rhetorical, I honestly have no idea.
- hello_newman 8y ago
  Why someone would move from SF to PHX area? ummm considering the average rent in SF is $3340[0] and the average rent in PHX is $955[1], I cant possibly imagine why someone would want to do that. Plus PHX is really only that hot May to September. PHX is like other deserts and generally very pleasant outside of the summer with lots of sun, which isn’t something you can always say about SF. 0: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/san-francisco/ https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/sa... 1: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/az/phoenix/ https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/az/ph...
  - jtreminio 8y ago
    I'm sorry, I must not have been clear enough. I meant, why someone from SF, with perfect weather, would decide to move to Phoenix of all places. Cheap land can be found in the vast majority of this country, Phoenix just seems like the polar opposite of climate from SF.
    - conception 8y ago
      Wait... SF has perfect weather? I think you are excluding several months of rain and the surprising cold of the bay.
      - askafriend 8y ago
        What rain are you talking about? In fact, we could use more rain if anything. I can't even remember the last time it rained.
    - mindcrime 8y ago
      SF is nice, but I wouldn't call the weather there "perfect" by any stretch. Last time I was there it was cold, rainy, and basically miserable. OTOH, there is a lot of great food to be had in SF...
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Flagstaff might be OK (high desert, not as hot). Los Alamos is in the same boat (with an interesting history as well, supposedly they have some tech startup scene now as they move away from defense).
bbg215 8y ago
Phoenix is ripe for a tech explosion but likely has been hindered by the government and it's aversion to incentives. Perfect weather 70% of the year, summer's are hot but easily escapable due to pools and air conditioning, one of the largest public universities in country, unreal amounts of sunshine, little humidity, huge swaths of available land, low cost of living/rent, little traffic besides rush hour, and its trending blue politically as a result of all the inflow of former residents from CA, OR, etc. San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas all are with-in a 1 hour flight from Sky Harbor. Massive elevation changes with-in 1+ hour drive. Wine country and Mexico to the south and ski slopes/alpine forests and Grand Canyon/Lake Powell to the north. Will be a swing state in the next 8 years and is likely to have a education focused Dem Gov over the next 4. A focus on education and incentives to lure more tech will be the key.

jtreminio 8y ago

I was just in Phoenix last week after visiting the Grand Canyon. I can't imagine _why_ someone would move from the 70F of SF to the 115F of Phoenix. Even at midnight it's still over 90*F. This coming from someone who lives in DFW.

geggam 8y ago
Because that is 3 months of the year. The other 9 are perfect weather. Essentially we don't have to shovel snow during our hibernation season
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona#Climate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona#Climate 5 months out of the year the mean is above 80F.
  - godot 8y ago
    Not sure why there is an assumption that everybody likes 68F with miserable fog. Some people actually like 80-90F temperature. I do. 90+ is too hot sure, and I get that PHX is 100+ for 3 months. I like to be able to walk outside in a tshirt at night, instead of wearing a down jacket. I live in the Bay area and it's far from perfect weather. I can only live in the East Bay where there's actually summer temperature (80+F outside in the day time now and I love it). Living in SF would be pure misery to me. I would totally consider moving to PHX, but I first have to convince the wife. :)
  - ohjeez 8y ago
    I'll take 90 degrees with low humidity over 80 degrees and muggy _any_ day of the week.
aaronbrethorst 8y ago
Because land is cheap? Not rhetorical, I honestly have no idea.
hello_newman 8y ago
Why someone would move from SF to PHX area? ummm considering the average rent in SF is $3340[0] and the average rent in PHX is $955[1], I cant possibly imagine why someone would want to do that. Plus PHX is really only that hot May to September. PHX is like other deserts and generally very pleasant outside of the summer with lots of sun, which isn’t something you can always say about SF. 0: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/san-francisco/ https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/sa... 1: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/az/phoenix/ https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/az/ph...
- jtreminio 8y ago
  I'm sorry, I must not have been clear enough. I meant, why someone from SF, with perfect weather, would decide to move to Phoenix of all places. Cheap land can be found in the vast majority of this country, Phoenix just seems like the polar opposite of climate from SF.
  - conception 8y ago
    Wait... SF has perfect weather? I think you are excluding several months of rain and the surprising cold of the bay.
    - askafriend 8y ago
      What rain are you talking about? In fact, we could use more rain if anything. I can't even remember the last time it rained.
  - mindcrime 8y ago
    SF is nice, but I wouldn't call the weather there "perfect" by any stretch. Last time I was there it was cold, rainy, and basically miserable. OTOH, there is a lot of great food to be had in SF...
seanmcdirmid 8y ago
Flagstaff might be OK (high desert, not as hot). Los Alamos is in the same boat (with an interesting history as well, supposedly they have some tech startup scene now as they move away from defense).

bbg215 8y ago

Phoenix is ripe for a tech explosion but likely has been hindered by the government and it's aversion to incentives. Perfect weather 70% of the year, summer's are hot but easily escapable due to pools and air conditioning, one of the largest public universities in country, unreal amounts of sunshine, little humidity, huge swaths of available land, low cost of living/rent, little traffic besides rush hour, and its trending blue politically as a result of all the inflow of former residents from CA, OR, etc. San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas all are with-in a 1 hour flight from Sky Harbor. Massive elevation changes with-in 1+ hour drive. Wine country and Mexico to the south and ski slopes/alpine forests and Grand Canyon/Lake Powell to the north. Will be a swing state in the next 8 years and is likely to have a education focused Dem Gov over the next 4. A focus on education and incentives to lure more tech will be the key.