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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/the-police-state-of-the-future-is-already-here https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/the-police-stat... KASHGAR, China — This is a city where growing a beard can get you reported to the police. So can inviting too many people to your wedding, or naming your child Muhammad or Medina. Driving or taking a bus to a neighboring town, you’d hit checkpoints where armed police officers might search your phone for banned apps like Facebook or Twitter, and scroll through your text messages to see if you had used any religious language. You would be particularly worried about making phone calls to friends and family abroad. Hours later, you might find police officers knocking at your door and asking questions that make you suspect they were listening in the whole time.

anoncoward111 8y ago
The human rights situation is appalling in Xinjiang, dont get me wrong. Chinese goverment doing this are near genocidal. However it is another thing to claim 1m Uighurs are being forcibly detained somewhere. That is a lot of people. The Uighurs are not a large population. Everyone would know someone politically detained. We would have thousands of videos of people begging for information about the whereabouts of their loved ones.
- 394549 8y ago
  > However it is another thing to claim 1m Uighurs are being forcibly detained somewhere. That is a lot of people. There were a lot of Jews in Europe, once upon a time. Vast numbers of them were detained. What's so unbelievable about a massive country with a well-developed construction industry building such camps? > The Uighurs are not a large population. Everyone would know someone politically detained. They do, and you've given able evidence of that. > We would have thousands of videos of people begging for information about the whereabouts of their loved ones. Why would they do that? I might get more of their family detained. Also, it's not like these people have access to Youtube, and I have no doubt a video like you desire would be immediately censored if posted to any Chinese site. You've been given ample evidence from dozens reputable sources about these existence of these camps and their scale. If you cared to read them, they would have answered many of your objections. Doubt at this point is irrational denialism, akin to holocaust denialism.

anoncoward111 8y ago

The human rights situation is appalling in Xinjiang, dont get me wrong. Chinese goverment doing this are near genocidal. However it is another thing to claim 1m Uighurs are being forcibly detained somewhere. That is a lot of people. The Uighurs are not a large population. Everyone would know someone politically detained. We would have thousands of videos of people begging for information about the whereabouts of their loved ones.

394549 8y ago
> However it is another thing to claim 1m Uighurs are being forcibly detained somewhere. That is a lot of people. There were a lot of Jews in Europe, once upon a time. Vast numbers of them were detained. What's so unbelievable about a massive country with a well-developed construction industry building such camps? > The Uighurs are not a large population. Everyone would know someone politically detained. They do, and you've given able evidence of that. > We would have thousands of videos of people begging for information about the whereabouts of their loved ones. Why would they do that? I might get more of their family detained. Also, it's not like these people have access to Youtube, and I have no doubt a video like you desire would be immediately censored if posted to any Chinese site. You've been given ample evidence from dozens reputable sources about these existence of these camps and their scale. If you cared to read them, they would have answered many of your objections. Doubt at this point is irrational denialism, akin to holocaust denialism.