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Continuing the tangent: I've often wondered if having a separate voting system for "agree/disagree" and "correct/incorrect" would help /thinking out loud

DoctorOetker 8y ago
Like "I believe this, but I know it is false?" ?
- CaptSpify 8y ago
  I frequently see comments where I'm not sure how to vote. Examples: A) The statements/arguments/facts in your comment are incorrect, but your conclusion is correct based on $something_else. I don't want to vote up because if someone is factually wrong, or making their argument based on faulty logic, it can dilute a legitimate discussion. But can't deny that I have an emotional desire to vote it up. B) The statements/arguments/facts in your comment are correct, but your conclusion is incorrect based on $something_else. I don't want to vote up because someone can have and understand all the facts, but still be wrong. But I also want to encourage a healthy discourse with accurate facts. C) Although I disagree with your overall conclusion, I think your argument is still worth considering. I want to vote up, but also down D) You are technically right, but you are being an asshole. I want to encourage civil behavior, but if their argument has merit, I don't want to downvote. I guess what I'm trying to say is: A simple up/down vote is a leaky abstraction. I'm not sure that adding more voting options is a good idea, but I'm also not convinced that a single up/down is good enough. This also depends on the voting/commenting guidelines of the site you are on, obviously.
  - DoctorOetker 8y ago
    Then the problem is that a post is treated atomically, so yes a monolithic up/down vote is certainly a leaky abstraction. I hereby declare your comment "productive, in despair, scatterbrained yet True with a capital T despite me not believing in true things" upvoted! :)
jimnotgym 8y ago
Or "agree/disagree" and "well argued and on topic/irrelevant or badly argued"

DoctorOetker 8y ago

Like "I believe this, but I know it is false?" ?

CaptSpify 8y ago
I frequently see comments where I'm not sure how to vote. Examples: A) The statements/arguments/facts in your comment are incorrect, but your conclusion is correct based on $something_else. I don't want to vote up because if someone is factually wrong, or making their argument based on faulty logic, it can dilute a legitimate discussion. But can't deny that I have an emotional desire to vote it up. B) The statements/arguments/facts in your comment are correct, but your conclusion is incorrect based on $something_else. I don't want to vote up because someone can have and understand all the facts, but still be wrong. But I also want to encourage a healthy discourse with accurate facts. C) Although I disagree with your overall conclusion, I think your argument is still worth considering. I want to vote up, but also down D) You are technically right, but you are being an asshole. I want to encourage civil behavior, but if their argument has merit, I don't want to downvote. I guess what I'm trying to say is: A simple up/down vote is a leaky abstraction. I'm not sure that adding more voting options is a good idea, but I'm also not convinced that a single up/down is good enough. This also depends on the voting/commenting guidelines of the site you are on, obviously.
- DoctorOetker 8y ago
  Then the problem is that a post is treated atomically, so yes a monolithic up/down vote is certainly a leaky abstraction. I hereby declare your comment "productive, in despair, scatterbrained yet True with a capital T despite me not believing in true things" upvoted! :)

jimnotgym 8y ago

Or "agree/disagree" and "well argued and on topic/irrelevant or badly argued"