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It won't be long until my primary gaming rig is ten years old, and it's more than capable of everything I throw at it. The upgrade cycle is essentially dead. T
by megaman22 8y ago
It won't be long until my primary gaming rig is ten years old, and it's more than capable of everything I throw at it. The upgrade cycle is essentially dead.
That being said, I'm not clear on what the real difference between Lubuntu and Kubuntu will be now.
- EpicEng 8y ago>It won't be long until my primary gaming rig is ten years old, and it's more than capable of everything I throw at it You must not throw much at it
- hug 8y agoI cannot think of a single AAA title in recent memory that causes my i7 2600k -- an 8 year old CPU -- to struggle. It can play absolutely every single modern game, with the only component upgrade in its 8 year life being the GPU.
- sincerely 8y agoI'm not a huge gamer anymore but...isn't the main bottleneck for running AAA gaming at high settings the GPU?
- SamReidHughes 8y agoIt can be the CPU. But since four cores is the best everybody has, games don't push that.
- nilkn 8y agoGenerally yes, although there are certain games that an old CPU would definitely choke on. It’s a bit disingenuous to say the upgrade cycle is dead and then to spend more money on upgrading the GPU than the total value of everything else combined.
- EpicEng 8y ago>I cannot think of a single AAA title in recent memory that causes my i7 2600k -- an 8 year old CPU -- to struggle I cannot think of any modern, graphically demanding game which is bottlenecked by the CPU. I imagine you are harming your GPU performance to some degree with such an old CPU though. Not sure I buy what you're saying here. What settings are you using?
- hug 8y agoMy point, of course, is that the only thing you’re going to measure a gaming rig by is gaming, which has very little to do with the age (or speed) of any component other than the GPU. Do you suspect, though, that the standard home user (or user of a repurposed old machine with Lubuntu on it, maybe) is going to be pushing those other components harder than a modern AAA game? Yeah, me neither. As an aside to answer your question:, I can run pretty much any game on its highest settings just fine with this machine: which is a gtx1070, 2600k, and 16gb of RAM driving a 120hz 1080p display. It was originally built with two HD5990s in crossfire.
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- hak8or 8y agoBattle field 4 and battlefield 1, both of those games max out my cpu (3570k overclocked to 4 Ghz) and leave my 1070 twiddling it thumbs based on task manager and software to see GPU utilization. Either my cpu is slower than it should be, your cpu is faster than it should be, or you don't check out one of the poster child's aaa game series.
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- fooker 8y agoYou can stick a new GPU into a 10 year old machine and it would run modern games admirably.
- txcwpalpha 8y agoThis is some Ship of Theseus territory we're getting into here, but I think most people would say that if you replace the GPU in your rig, it's not the same rig.
- DiabloD3 8y agoYup, but this is the "problem" with computing now adays. For 90% of computers, merely putting an SSD in it (no matter how old it is, as long as it has, or can fit, at least 2GB of RAM, as to deal with piggy "modern" Electron/CEF/etc apps and similar idiocy in webapps in browsers) can make it seem sometimes a decade newer. For those who game, more often than not, just upgrading the GPU helps. I have a i7-4771 @ 3.9ghz /w 32GB of DDR3-2133. This is not a new system, but no one has made anything newer that really would improve actual performance for me... what holds me back is a similarly old GPU that I've finally decided to swap out with a GTX 1180 when they come out next month. My 7970 served me for many many years and games are finally starting to punish it at 1080p. Still won't need to update my CPU, however.
- Dylan16807 8y agoShip of Theseus? That's quite an exaggeration. Motherboard is often considered the core, and same motherboard and CPU is definitely the same rig. It's just an add-on card that has changed.
- ReverseCold 8y agoSometimes that "add on card" can eclipse the cost of the "rig" itself. If the purpose of the device is to play games, and it it incapable of doing so without this component, I'd think of it as a bit more than an "add on card"
- taneq 8y ago
- scrollaway 8y agoKDE and LXQt are radically different, even though they use the same underlying framework. In a way, it'll be the same difference as XFCE vs. GNOME.
- grawprog 8y agoI must admit these days i'm really preferring Qt over GTK. It's come a long way since I started using Linux. I remember looking at LXQt back when it was first released and found it fairly interesting but nowhere near developed enough for daily use. I always liked XFCE but found it lacking in customization and kind of buggy at the time I used it. Though it did keep my laptop going after a hardrivr failure running partitioned across 4 USB drives until I got a new one. It's cool to see LXQt in a state where lubuntu is adopting it as it's primary environment.
- bscphil 8y agoEven good quality laptop hardware is lasting. I'm using a laptop that's about 8 years old as my daily driver, and it can more than handle everything I need it to do - and that includes compiling software regularly. We've reached a great time for computers because pretty much any device you can buy (even used) can do all the stuff most people need to do. The primary advantage of newer gear is just reduced power requirements.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoHopefully this will be the next big battleground in the world of hardware. I'd love a laptop that could go days between charges.
- shmerl 8y ago> It won't be long until my primary gaming rig is ten years old, and it's more than capable of everything I throw at it. The upgrade cycle is essentially dead. Not really for GPUs though. AMD progressed a lot and all the new features are landing in amdgpu, not in radeon. That's important especially for Vulkan support. Older GPUs are locked out of that completely. CPU progress is less rapid, but something like Ryzen is quite a breakthrough.
- StavrosK 8y ago> The upgrade cycle is essentially dead. It's terrible that we can't count on computers getting twice as fast every year any more. I guess it couldn't last for ever...
- andrewmcwatters 8y agoNah, nah, it's about damn time software engineers start giving a shit about performance again.
- StavrosK 8y ago...because we've already got all the computing power we'll ever need? You think software developers not caring about performance is why we can't quickly simulate weather systems or protein folding or do large-scale ML?
- megaman22 8y agoI'd settle for text editors that don't lock up when I type an open paren. Or use entire sticks of RAM at rest.
- ReverseCold 8y ago> text editors that don't lock up when I type an open paren This miiiiight be just you. Even sublime text (forget vim or another cli editor) runs fine on ancient hardware. What type of files are you editing? > Or use entire sticks of RAM at rest. I'd hope my text editors would use as much ram as it needs in order to give me the smoothest experience. If possible, that means storing the whole file in RAM (up to a set limit).
- artursapek 8y agoStop using editors written in Javascript by overpaid new-grads
- sokoloff 8y agoSome here are old enough to remember "emacs: eight megabytes and constantly swapping", back when a stick of RAM could have been 8 Megabytes...