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The rules are designed to enforce the delivery of ads. I agree on the no surprise aspect. Adguard allowed users to expunge ads, Apple has many policies to prev

The rules are designed to enforce the delivery of ads. I agree on the no surprise aspect. Adguard allowed users to expunge ads, Apple has many policies to prevent ceding such control to mere consumers.

MBCook 8y ago
Apple provides an ad blocking framework. It was s big feature 2 years ago. How is that ‘enforcing the delivery of ads?’ Because you can’t block ads in apps, only the web? Any DNS based blocker could trivially track much of what you do both browsing and in apps. And that’s the kind of privacy risk Apple tends to try to fix.
- mirimir 8y ago
  Personally, I worry more about the ads than about the blocker.
manigandham 8y ago
Apple built ad/content blocking into Safari itself, encouraged its use, and has been waging war on third-party cookies and other tracking for years. This is the exact opposite of "enforcing ads".
- untog 8y ago
  ...in the browser, yes. But not in apps, which is the distinction for the app in question.
- crispinb 8y ago
  Not really - it's eliminating competition. Apple is stopping competitors (web apps) from displaying any ads, and enforcing ads through the channel (App Store apps) it profits from.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    I have a better way to block ads. I either pay for the no ads version and support the developer or delete an app that doesn’t have a no ads option. Except for Overcast. You can pay for s no ads version but I find ads for podcast based on the category of podcasts I’m listening to useful.
    - crispinb 8y ago
      Seems like a reasonable personal story about how you use an ad-delivery platform like iOS (and is pretty close to what I do on all the platforms I use). But it has little to do with the rightness or otherwise of disallowing users from deciding which network connections their own device is permitted to attempt.
      - scarface74 8y ago
        I am controlling what ads I see - I have an ad blocker that works in both the web browser and my RSS reader - ad blockers work in embedded SafariViewControllers - and I don’t bother with apps that don’t give me an option to remove ads. But using a third party VPN that intercepts all of your internet traffic to protect your privacy seems like it’s defeating the purpose. Especially seeing that third party content blockers on iOS have no access to your web browsing history.
- vuln 8y ago
  You act as if apple blocks their own ads. ProTip: They don't. They want to keep you in that walled garden on that phone you leased and don't even have root on. Jokes on us.
saagarjha 8y ago
I think the intent here was to stop an application from having access to all browser traffic for a purpose by bending the rules of system API (namely, that you should be using this to make a VPN).

MBCook 8y ago

Apple provides an ad blocking framework. It was s big feature 2 years ago. How is that ‘enforcing the delivery of ads?’ Because you can’t block ads in apps, only the web? Any DNS based blocker could trivially track much of what you do both browsing and in apps. And that’s the kind of privacy risk Apple tends to try to fix.

mirimir 8y ago
Personally, I worry more about the ads than about the blocker.

manigandham 8y ago

Apple built ad/content blocking into Safari itself, encouraged its use, and has been waging war on third-party cookies and other tracking for years. This is the exact opposite of "enforcing ads".

untog 8y ago
...in the browser, yes. But not in apps, which is the distinction for the app in question.
crispinb 8y ago
Not really - it's eliminating competition. Apple is stopping competitors (web apps) from displaying any ads, and enforcing ads through the channel (App Store apps) it profits from.
- scarface74 8y ago
  I have a better way to block ads. I either pay for the no ads version and support the developer or delete an app that doesn’t have a no ads option. Except for Overcast. You can pay for s no ads version but I find ads for podcast based on the category of podcasts I’m listening to useful.
  - crispinb 8y ago
    Seems like a reasonable personal story about how you use an ad-delivery platform like iOS (and is pretty close to what I do on all the platforms I use). But it has little to do with the rightness or otherwise of disallowing users from deciding which network connections their own device is permitted to attempt.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      I am controlling what ads I see - I have an ad blocker that works in both the web browser and my RSS reader - ad blockers work in embedded SafariViewControllers - and I don’t bother with apps that don’t give me an option to remove ads. But using a third party VPN that intercepts all of your internet traffic to protect your privacy seems like it’s defeating the purpose. Especially seeing that third party content blockers on iOS have no access to your web browsing history.
vuln 8y ago
You act as if apple blocks their own ads. ProTip: They don't. They want to keep you in that walled garden on that phone you leased and don't even have root on. Jokes on us.

saagarjha 8y ago

I think the intent here was to stop an application from having access to all browser traffic for a purpose by bending the rules of system API (namely, that you should be using this to make a VPN).