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Microsoft wants "Developers, Developers, Developers!" TypeScript makes JavaScript easier & less buggy IMO. The more people developing with TypeScript, the bett

Microsoft wants "Developers, Developers, Developers!" TypeScript makes JavaScript easier & less buggy IMO. The more people developing with TypeScript, the better chance they use Microsoft's other tools. Some of those tools cost money. Some also make deploying with Azure really easy & enjoyable. Azure is their big cash cow. The more MS tools you use & the better perception of the company you have, the easier it is to find yourself just wanting to stay in their ecosystem.

sbjs 8y ago
That doesn't seem right. I don't know anyone who uses Azure outside of a .NET-centric programming job. Azure always seemed to be like "hey if you heard good things about AWS and need a place to deploy your code but you've never touched anything outside the Microsoft ecosystem, come try Azure!" I've seen it advertised on Stack Overflow a lot, but I have never even thought of looking into it, for the same reason I have no reason to install Visual Studio.
- korijn 8y ago
  We primarily use Azure, and only 1 .NET legacy app lives there. Everything else is Python and JS! I'm enjoying Azure a lot!
- bigtones 8y ago
  Azure is aimed at Enterprises and developers inside those companies who already run a lot of Microsoft tech and are familiar with Visual Studio. They do really well in that space because they already have a lot of mind share there, and that is a very big opportunity for them monetarily in the next few years as a lot of Enterprises move to the cloud.
- gameswithgo 8y ago
  battlegrounds uses azure
- TomMarius 8y ago
  Enterprise doesn't care about this. Enterprise cares about prices.
  - mattferderer 8y ago
    In my experience, enterprises care less about price & more about support, perceived reliability & how they calculate value. I typically see them pay through the nose for inferior products, that are over priced but offer support packages & are billed as an enterprise company. Ironically, the support usually leaves them frustrated as good support is hard to find.
- mattferderer 8y ago
  I suggest giving it a shot. If you do Kubernetes type deployments they have some nice offerings for all levels of knowledge. They just released Service Fabric Mesh for those who know less about it. If you just want a simple deployment, their App Services is really slick & easy with Github integration for JS, PHP, .NET & other stacks. They also have some really good integrations with their serverless stuff that decreases the amount of code you have to write significantly.
wink 8y ago
I see TS as basically the one example that has nothing to do with the MS ecosystem. I actually only know web developers using Macs to edit their TS, maybe a rare case of Linux, zero other MS things used, except maybe VS Code. And maybe it's debatable if VS Code is the best TS editor, I also have no numbers about widespread use, but I doubt it's a majority.
- egeozcan 8y ago
  I looked at a few surveys and nearly 50% of the developers are using Windows. I doubt that this can change so much for JavaScript.
  - wink 8y ago
    Yeah, my data is anecdata - I only know one country and mostly small shops. But unless something drastically changed the last years where I was in startup land - many web developers tended to prefer Linux or Macs, whether they're using Rails, Python, or PHP. In general the bigger or more agency-like the company, the higher the percentage of Windows for developers.

sbjs 8y ago

That doesn't seem right. I don't know anyone who uses Azure outside of a .NET-centric programming job. Azure always seemed to be like "hey if you heard good things about AWS and need a place to deploy your code but you've never touched anything outside the Microsoft ecosystem, come try Azure!" I've seen it advertised on Stack Overflow a lot, but I have never even thought of looking into it, for the same reason I have no reason to install Visual Studio.

korijn 8y ago
We primarily use Azure, and only 1 .NET legacy app lives there. Everything else is Python and JS! I'm enjoying Azure a lot!
bigtones 8y ago
Azure is aimed at Enterprises and developers inside those companies who already run a lot of Microsoft tech and are familiar with Visual Studio. They do really well in that space because they already have a lot of mind share there, and that is a very big opportunity for them monetarily in the next few years as a lot of Enterprises move to the cloud.
gameswithgo 8y ago
battlegrounds uses azure
TomMarius 8y ago
Enterprise doesn't care about this. Enterprise cares about prices.
- mattferderer 8y ago
  In my experience, enterprises care less about price & more about support, perceived reliability & how they calculate value. I typically see them pay through the nose for inferior products, that are over priced but offer support packages & are billed as an enterprise company. Ironically, the support usually leaves them frustrated as good support is hard to find.
mattferderer 8y ago
I suggest giving it a shot. If you do Kubernetes type deployments they have some nice offerings for all levels of knowledge. They just released Service Fabric Mesh for those who know less about it. If you just want a simple deployment, their App Services is really slick & easy with Github integration for JS, PHP, .NET & other stacks. They also have some really good integrations with their serverless stuff that decreases the amount of code you have to write significantly.

wink 8y ago

I see TS as basically the one example that has nothing to do with the MS ecosystem. I actually only know web developers using Macs to edit their TS, maybe a rare case of Linux, zero other MS things used, except maybe VS Code. And maybe it's debatable if VS Code is the best TS editor, I also have no numbers about widespread use, but I doubt it's a majority.

egeozcan 8y ago
I looked at a few surveys and nearly 50% of the developers are using Windows. I doubt that this can change so much for JavaScript.
- wink 8y ago
  Yeah, my data is anecdata - I only know one country and mostly small shops. But unless something drastically changed the last years where I was in startup land - many web developers tended to prefer Linux or Macs, whether they're using Rails, Python, or PHP. In general the bigger or more agency-like the company, the higher the percentage of Windows for developers.