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EDIT: It's legit. Thanks to the commenter below. Can anyone in Russia confirm if this is a legit news story? It's being repeated throughout tabloids in the Wes
by steve19 8y ago
EDIT: It's legit. Thanks to the commenter below.
Can anyone in Russia confirm if this is a legit news story? It's being repeated throughout tabloids in the West all referencing this English language Siberian publication, as well as hordes of definite news apsm sites, all appear to be using the same generic images and verbetium or almost verbetium text.
- trhway 8y agohttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1134%2FS0012496618030079 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134%2FS001249661803007... the affiliations list top Russian schools as well as Princeton.
- steve19 8y agoThanks. If anyone wants easy access using, uhhh, a friend, here is the DOI https://doi.org/10.1134/S0012496618030079 https://doi.org/10.1134/S0012496618030079
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- Demiurge 8y agoYes, I found a pretty legit article actually naming researchers and having better pictures, but it says 30 000 years. Says the paper about this is published in presumably Russian journal 'Doklady Biological Sciences' and there were collaborators in Princeton. https://news.rambler.ru/other/40414227-chervi-s-kolymy-prishli-v-sebya-posle-30-000-let-spyachki/ https://news.rambler.ru/other/40414227-chervi-s-kolymy-prish...
- rossdavidh 8y agoThe OP article mentions two worms, one from around 30,000 years ago and the other from around 42,000.
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoDated how, because normally you date permafrost on the layers, but worms by their nature move. Perhaps they're (much) younger but burrowed down?
- tim333 8y agoI was wondering that. It seems a more likely hypothesis unless they have some good way of dating them. Maybe carbon date the worm body? Edit - the paper says >Some factors prevent the opportunity for nematodes to penetrate into permafrost strata many meters deep from the superposed modern tundra soil. The depth of seasonal thawing in the regions under study is up to 80 cm and was no more than 1.5 m even about 9000 years ago, during the Holocene Thermal Maximum. and the samples were 30m down so they are arguing the worms couldn't make it though they have only carbon dated the general soil samples and not the worm bodies.
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoThanks for RTFA and reporting back.
- aaron695 8y agoYou are correct the first image is "fake" It's a stock image and it seems to be orders of magnitude larger than it should be. It's been used on sites from fish feeding to gardening - http://www.domikdomovenka.ru/products/vidy-nematod http://www.domikdomovenka.ru/products/vidy-nematod http://akvarium.dp.ua/chem-luchshe-vsego-kormit-ryib/ http://akvarium.dp.ua/chem-luchshe-vsego-kormit-ryib/ Unlike the real ones which would be invisible to the naked eye, see photo two in the article. [edit] Actually at a length of half a mm you could see them with the naked eye, but 20 μm across so maybe not.
- dEnigma 8y agoJust fyi: the term you wanted to use was "verbatim", meaning "word for word"
- sAbakumoff 8y agogoogle search of this news in Russian language provides multiple references, but most of them do not seem very reliable. The titles look like a click bait. "Ancient creatures have awakened in Russia! No one knows what it is!".