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I don't know any Canadian developer with less than 5 years of experience earning $90k/year. Most developers I know with more than 5 years of experience earn les

I don't know any Canadian developer with less than 5 years of experience earning $90k/year. Most developers I know with more than 5 years of experience earn less than $90k/year.

parthdesai 8y ago
Really? Going to through job postings and you can hit $90k/year with 3 years of experience. Of course you start at $90-$100k as a new grad in Amazon and Google.
- c2h5oh 8y ago
  There are very few senior developer jobs over 150k Cad, even with a lot of experience. I expect that to change as the hiring crunch continues but right now the ceiling has been slow to budge - much slower than the lower end of the spectrum, which is pressured more with average rent in Toronto going up over 15% year over year
  - randomdata 8y ago
    The Hired.com annual salary report shows that while Toronto tech incomes have gone up overall in the past year, developer salaries have actually declined. Canada has an exceptionally strong culture of pushing for workplace training, to the point that the OECD calls Canada the most educated nation, so when a career stands out as having good job prospects (which development has been billed that way for several years now) people flood into it, putting downward pressure on incomes unlike you find stateside where the social dynamics don't push people into those jobs the same way. If you're doing something really unique perhaps there is still room for upward growth (although you're probably already well past $150k in that case), but generally it is unlikely that developer incomes will climb further at all.
rpeden 8y ago
It might be a good time for those devs you know to make a move, if they're at all unhappy with their job situation. A few devs I know with >5 years experience have moved to new roles lately, and the companies didn't even hesitate when they asked for salaries well over 100k. I know it's just anecdotal, of course. Other probably have good counter-examples. but maybe it's a useful data point regardless.
isthisnagee 8y ago
I know some developers with less than 5 years experience earning more than CAD90k/year in Toronto, but they're not the majority of developers I know. Those jobs do exist, but they're hard to get and hard to find.
angerbot 8y ago
I'm at $90k with ~3 years experience (located in Toronto). Many of my colleagues are either at 90 or very close (~85) with similar experience. I've lived in Vancouver as well and have seen similar compensation.
- miguelrochefort 8y ago
  I'm located in Montreal. Could that explain the difference?
  - angerbot 8y ago
    Yes, cost of living in Montreal is nowhere near what it is in Vancouver or Toronto
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I don't know any Canadian developer with less than 5 years of experience earning $90k/year. Most developers I know with more than 5 years of experience earn less than $90k/year.

parthdesai 8y ago

Really? Going to through job postings and you can hit $90k/year with 3 years of experience. Of course you start at $90-$100k as a new grad in Amazon and Google.

c2h5oh 8y ago
There are very few senior developer jobs over 150k Cad, even with a lot of experience. I expect that to change as the hiring crunch continues but right now the ceiling has been slow to budge - much slower than the lower end of the spectrum, which is pressured more with average rent in Toronto going up over 15% year over year
- randomdata 8y ago
  The Hired.com annual salary report shows that while Toronto tech incomes have gone up overall in the past year, developer salaries have actually declined. Canada has an exceptionally strong culture of pushing for workplace training, to the point that the OECD calls Canada the most educated nation, so when a career stands out as having good job prospects (which development has been billed that way for several years now) people flood into it, putting downward pressure on incomes unlike you find stateside where the social dynamics don't push people into those jobs the same way. If you're doing something really unique perhaps there is still room for upward growth (although you're probably already well past $150k in that case), but generally it is unlikely that developer incomes will climb further at all.

rpeden 8y ago

It might be a good time for those devs you know to make a move, if they're at all unhappy with their job situation. A few devs I know with >5 years experience have moved to new roles lately, and the companies didn't even hesitate when they asked for salaries well over 100k. I know it's just anecdotal, of course. Other probably have good counter-examples. but maybe it's a useful data point regardless.

isthisnagee 8y ago

I know some developers with less than 5 years experience earning more than CAD90k/year in Toronto, but they're not the majority of developers I know. Those jobs do exist, but they're hard to get and hard to find.

angerbot 8y ago

I'm at $90k with ~3 years experience (located in Toronto). Many of my colleagues are either at 90 or very close (~85) with similar experience. I've lived in Vancouver as well and have seen similar compensation.

miguelrochefort 8y ago
I'm located in Montreal. Could that explain the difference?
- angerbot 8y ago
  Yes, cost of living in Montreal is nowhere near what it is in Vancouver or Toronto

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